Why isn’t there a Flash Player 8 for Linux?

It’s been a question floating out there with no answer for a while now, and I actually posted a response on the Labs Forums. I’ll repost it here so more people can find it/reference it:

“Based on the short time frame between announcing Flash Player 8 and Flash Player 8.5, we decided to work on developing a Linux version for Flash Player 8.5, which will ship after the Windows and Mac versions.

We have not yet announced plans to develop a 64-bit player on Linux.”

*** Closing Comments ***
Flash Player 9 for Linux shipped in January 2007. This is a really old post. Please check recent postings for current/relevant info and updates.

159 Responses to Why isn’t there a Flash Player 8 for Linux?

  1. ericd says:

    is there a solid fp7 for linux yet? last i heard it was in bad shape, but i have no experience with it.

  2. Rob says:

    Will Solaris/x64 be released in conjunction with Linux as well?

  3. Linux PPC…..www.petitiononline.com/fla4lppc/

  4. macewan says:

    Ericd, flash7 works fine on Lin*

  5. SK8T says:

    FP7 for Linux is very unstable!My firefox crashes when I do a right click on a flash movie, and konqueror, too!

  6. Flash_Fitness says:

    A side questions. Perhaps this group can point me in the right direction.I am developing a line of fitness products with an embedded touch-screen to control our exercise equipment. I have specified Linux as the OS and Flash for the user interface. I want to control a TV card (channel up/down) and also send serial commands to the fitness equipment (speed up, slow down on a treadmill for example).What version of Linux and Flash should I be looking at? Also can anyone refer a really smart Linux/Flash savvy contractor that I can hire to develop the basic platform functionality. I am located in the Southern California area. -Marc flashfitness_at_pda360_dot_com

  7. usef says:

    I hope SVG replace flash technology in future. This what i think it is so bad about flash,it is not standard,it is only for macromedia.

  8. Anthony Mercuri says:

    Flash 7 is *very* buggy on Linux. I agree SVG is the way to go as it is a standard, but I don’t want to kill Adobe/Macromedia, as it is a very good company with very good products, perhaps an upcoming version of flash could export to SVG?

  9. tomxmas says:

    I have never had a problem with flash in linuxbut ,now that 8 is out some sites are already using itso my point is I can understand that not as many people use linux and having a delay on the releasebut on the other hand sony pictures used it for a flash preview of one of their movies – I can’t watch it so I won’t see that moviethey are hurting their high end customers with delaying in this way

  10. luis loera says:

    yahoo!!exelente!!

  11. Petar says:

    http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/I hope one day we will not be forced to beg in order to get what we deserve but build it to the benefit of all…

  12. macewan says:

    Maybe an international browser disable flash day could be organized – maybe a week??What are the benefits to the Linux platform? Streaming video & advertisements? This we can live without. Flash needs platforms other than Windows more than we need them.Look at Skype, everyone seems to be jumping ship to the gizmo project.

  13. linuxinit says:

    Flash 7 works fine for me in Slackware using Firefox, Opera, Konqueror, and Galeon. So don’t bitch about it not working… That’s BS.

  14. Tim says:

    Thanks for the planned release of flash 8.5 for linux. flash 7.3 has worked great. I also hope that the release is soon since a couple sites I frequent, like streetfire.net, are using flash 8 because they were trying to use a format that was OS-independent, and they are converting everything from .wmv to flash, but they weren’t aware that flash 8 isn’t available for all OSs yet.

  15. Isaac says:

    I just read about this elsewhere, and I think that it is fantastic. If only there was an open-source division, but, we can’t have *everything*… (^^)Hopefully performance will see a boost, also. I don’t mind so much about the advertisements, but applications like Myspace.com’s music player tend to play a bit choppily.

  16. Devrethman says:

    I really don’t get why macromedia/adobe doesn’t just release the source to flashplayer, it’s not like they’re making money off of it anyway, and nobody will ever write an opensource implementation of flash (author), look how long it’s taken gimp to get anywhere near photoshop. Besides, If I could go to sleep at night knowing that everybody (not just those with macromedia-worthy hardware) could see the content I make, I might find it in my heart to update my studio MX I have been using since I got that pretty “plugin required” box instead of my website from my shiny new AMD64

  17. meg says:

    Because there’s no Flash 8.0 for linux, I can’t browse http://www.nikewomen.com 🙁

  18. Jim Stokes says:

    Emmy,A little bird has told me that Adobe will soon be investigated for Antitrust violations of the Monopolys act for collusion with Microsoft regarding their delayed code releases for Linux. You have been warned.Regards,Jim.

  19. Dave says:

    Any news on Flash Player 8.5 for Linux,there are way too many sites out that requires flash player 8.It is very frustrating!

  20. Isaac says:

    I understand that you guys are going as fast as you can, but I’m anticipating the release of Flash 8.5 (Linux) very much. My sister is particularly disappointed by running into sites which require Flash 8… May your development go smoothly and without much issue! (^^)meg: aww 🙁

  21. joel says:

    It would be nice if you could expedite the flash player for linux – it is rather annoying to be locked out of sites that users of windoze can access, due to the use of flash 8.Why the delay?BTW I’ve seen comments to the effect that flash is unstable onlinux – that’s odd, it’s always worked just fine for me. I’m running suse linux BTW (10.0) so maybe the distro makes a difference.

  22. maria says:

    any news on flash 8.5 for linux? the number of linux users complaining that they’re unable to use the Reuters- newsplayer on our site is rapidly growing, which is bad news for us….

  23. anonymouse says:

    Dear Marcomedia,While I understand the complexity of JIT-style code and low level VM-driven code, I do not see a reason to support 64bit at first at all. The userbase for 32bit-only machines is much much larger, not to mention that 32bit binaries run on 64bit machines just fine.So pretty please, with sugar on top, do release even a buggy version of the binary that works on 32bit Linux, it’s better than nothing and it’s better than waiting for years.Whomever is complaining about needing a 64bit binary doesn’t even know why it is of no importance.Thank you

  24. Bob the Builder says:

    I can only hope that 8.5 comes out very soon. It is getting tiresome looking at all the 8-based websites and having to launch Firefox under Wine or VMWare.

  25. Todd says:

    How much longer for Flash 8 on Linux? This is killing me!

  26. greg says:

    I can’t stand the clunky flash based websites proliferating on the web. I skip sites that use flash based web pages. Html is so much faster.All this B.S. about delaying Linux releases is sochildish and silly. I can’t wait til the open source guys make an flashplayer plugin for linux!

  27. Evan says:

    Eager to see this as well. Please don’t forget about us.

  28. David says:

    So yeah, count me as another guy who is waiting… And while you’re at it, fixing that audio/video sync issue that affects every flash movie played on linux thing would also be nice.

  29. Dany says:

    Eu acho isso um absurdo…nós o s usuários do linux, sempre somos deixados para tras.Isso é uma forma d tentar retardar o movimento do software livre.Desculpa não ter postado em ingles, mas espero q entendam

  30. riccardo says:

    I am another man who’s waiting for the new flash player for linux. Hey guys how much time we must wait for the new release ?? Adobe/Macromedia, this is a really poor show. bye bye

  31. kaczor says:

    NO amd64????? I dont get it … why commpanies like macromedia, adobe, M$ dont wana make amd64 versions of anything??? it looks for me like conspiration … i have 64bit maschine and have to use chroot for adobe (i can use xpdf fe so its not such graeat problem), flash (thanks to macromedia stupidity) and to watch movies (32bit codecs) …

  32. Andrea Controzzi says:

    It has been more than 100 days and still no flash player 8 for Linux.And this is supposed to be available AFTER you ship 8.5 for Windows and Mac, which is not even nearby!The beta version is still no Linux.Meanwhile Linux users can’t see many flash player 8 sites. Thank you very much Macromedia, you know how to make people hostile towards you. Don’t complain if they strike back, then…

  33. beeman says:

    Pretty, pretty please, give us anything Flash8 for linux, i’d love to see some content!!!

  34. Dave says:

    I think it’s time for the linux community to give up on adobe, they support MS and limited Mac, but for all else they are useless, we have been removing all flash from our sites now, too many complaints, we plan to do what everyone else seems to be moving to AJAX. I know that many companies are planning this move, adobe it to slow to respond to company needs. Too bad. As for the AMD64, it’s not support cause it’s hard to move into advanced technologies when your sleeping with Intel

  35. Christian says:

    Hi.Adobe’s policy regarding the Unices and Linux in particular is dissappointing. With PDF there thankfully is no need to rely on Adobe’s massively bloated viewer since there are excellent open alternatives, but with Flash we’re still stuck waiting for you. I sincerely hope alternative technologies will pass you by in the near future because your second-class treatment is an annoyance.Shame, really.Regards,Christian.

  36. self says:

    hi,i’d like to know how long it will approximately take until flash player 8.5 for linux is released… one week? two weeks? a month? more?we were not aware of this problem when starting to develop, and so we are using some effects like the enhanced text-antialiasing and want to publish our project on flash 8.x really soon. i hope flash player 8.5 for linux will be ready then.thanks in advance,self

  37. Ron says:

    Wow, there are a whole lot of rude, stupid, blind-to-reality people posting on this thread.I too am [b]eagerly[/b] awaiting the release of FP80 or FP85 for Linux, yet I still give a big, sincere, “Thank You!” to Macromedia for mainaining FP7, since I know that it can’t be a big priority at MM.And to all you who think that FP7 is unstable: get a modern version of FP and your browser!FF 1.0.x and FP 7.0.6x was a [b]very[/b] unstable pair, but FF 1.5.0.x and FP 7.0.63 is [b]rock[/b] solid.Ron

  38. Tom says:

    Is there a release date yet?

  39. Eric says:

    As more people choose Linux every day and more webmasters recognize this, Flash will lose market share if Macromedia continues to make Linux users wait months for an up-to-date version. Their neglect of this segment is a disgrace.I look forward to more news of that collusion charge–it would serve Macromedia right!

  40. Jeremy says:

    Let me first say that I believe flash is very useful and can be made to work well on a site. I can not wait for FP8 to be released for linux so that my wife can access sites that require FP8.As for me I stop going ot any site that requires me to uses FP8 and/or let them know that because they require FP8 this is why I will no long access thier website.Because of the late release of FP8 for linux and other issues with accessablitly with flahs, my company have started making our clients sign a weaver that says they understand using flash and flash 8 specifically means that not all uses will be able to access all content on thier site and do not hold my company responable.I hate to restict what my clients can uses but I feel I have to let them know that they will be lossing part of thier client if they require them to use somethign that is not supported on all platforms.Please allow linux users to start access sites with FP8 so both developers and users can start using new features.

  41. Craig says:

    “Dave”: Adobe Reader is far from perfect, especially on *nix, but there are many areas where it’s the only thing going. libpoppler/evince, xpdf and so on don’t support the other PDF color models very well, have no scripting support, etc etc etc. They support only the most extremely basic PDF capabilities, and that’s often just not enough. GhostScript handles other color spaces at least but isn’t commonly deployed as a PDF viewer and has no commonly available good viewer GUIs.It’d be nice of Adobe would pick up the ball a bit on Adobe Reader. They’re already doing pretty well these days on mainstream Linux (something I really appreciate) but the Solaris folks, non-x86-Linux users, etc are badly left out. Surely the code is portable enough that builds for these platforms can’t be that hard! That said, I’d prefer an up-to-date 7.x that fixes the bugs with mixed-color-space PDF, tagged PDF, color mismatches between vector and raster objects, and so on. (Many of these bugs exist on win32 too – 7.x was a big step back in some ways).”self”: Yep, lots of folks just don’t get the priorities here. I’m also happy to have Flash 7 and Adobe Reader 7 available. What surprises me is just the difficulty they’re having getting things ported – it strongly suggests that they don’t follow a “get it working on all platforms and KEEP it working on all platforms” development process. Porting to each target platform each and every time would have to suck, but that’s what it sounds like they might be doing at least to some extent. That’ll be hurting them in other ways too – eg win64 support.

  42. donynam says:

    How soon will Flash Player 8.5 for linux come out ?It seems that Adobe Macromedia have not yet to decide whether developing a Linux version FP 8.5 to linux or sitting down and do nothing.The Flash player 7 in linux is not fully utilize yet, when I use it to run a flash in FireFox 1.5 browser, the flash seem very slow in FireFox 1.5.I’m not sure whether this is because of flash player plugin or FireFox itself.

  43. Aaton says:

    Well I hope the next flash player does a better job syncing audio during play back. Under Linux the audio is always out of sync. Just view some YouTube lipsync videos and you’ll seen what I mean…

  44. wayward says:

    And the CPU usage will be brought down to scale too, I hope.

  45. wayward says:

    The real issue here is that most software companies, even if they do provide Linux binaries, still regard the platform only as a minor subset of their mostly OS X/Windows user base. Linux users, however, on average do tend to be more tech-savvy than your average OS X/Windows user, and have to matter more than just a percentage to a company aspiring for a positive image in the “upper class”. That kind of positive image can have a strong, if not altogether obvious, effect on e.g. acceptance of its future products, drafting high-profile employees, “word-of-mouth” recommendations by techies who people trust, etc.I’m not saying that Linux is the best OS there is (in fact, I strongly believe otherwise); I’m just saying that by treating Linux users with equal respect will gain you even more respect from that part of the playfield than from anywhere else, and that is where some of the future professional players practice their throws.

  46. Basil says:

    Linux sucks. Get a real operating system.

  47. Alex says:

    Screw you Basil. 🙂

  48. ht990332 says:

    Basil, screw you and your pirated windows box you ignorant nooblet.

  49. M Harris says:

    Is this actually going to take place?You say that there’s a timescale issue, but I can’t see it since market share seems to now be higher for linux than for macs, presumably because of all the PC enthusiasts who run Linux in their spare time.Appreciating that Mac is the platform where many of us develop flash, the fact is we’re still failing to deliver content to many more web users and potential CLIENTS through lack of a linux player than we ever would through lack of a Mac player (10% vs. 6% for us).It’s frankly easy to be skeptical on this. We all know Adobe has certain ideas about software patents, and we all know that Linux has small market share, so if Adobe’s position is going to be that Macromedia Flash isn’t cross-platform any more, let’s hear it.I’m sure I’m in the minority of developers here, but if you’re going to start playing silly-beggars with Flash being cross-platform, I (and my company) need to give serious consideration to abandoning 8 and above.There are big hardware buyers, gamers and early adopters out there with money to spend who crank up linux for a while at the weekend, and too many of them have started bad-mouthing companies already because of this, for us to set too much more faith in it.Your rationalisations are not good enough to claw back traffic and money.With Flash, multi-platform-multi-browser deployment is like vector graphics, small downloads and actionscript – you bin that, you bin a lot of developers.I’d make your choice, quickly, not for this individual, but because there’s clamour in the ranks of the customers with the cash SUPPORTING your products.

  50. Code Zero says:

    This is brutal – the waiting that is. More and more sites require Flash 8. I can’t even play the Google quest on my linux machine. Please release something!

  51. Havertov says:

    At least give people an update — or some guidance on how to build our own open source player.

  52. Jon says:

    I would also like to hear some kind of official update on the progress of the Flash 8(.5) plugin for Linux…

  53. Nick says:

    9 months after the flash 8 release we still have nothing for linux. I’m still waiting and getting frustrated not being able to view all the pages that have been moved to the flash 8 platform.Do you need beta testers or is flash 8(.5) vaporware?

  54. Jason says:

    Oh Man this is just brutal…Please give us an update or something. In the words of Dr. Evil…Throw us a frickin bone here

  55. Disgruntled Flash User says:

    Dear Emmy Huang,Your purposeful delay of both the development and shipment of products for linux will not, as I suspect you believe, sway linux users to the use of Windows or OS X. The reason people use linux is not “necessarily” because they hate Windows or Windows sucks or “put in your best Microsoft slam here”, it is because they CAN. It’s all about choice. And allow me to be, maybe not the first, but at least someone, to tell you that as soon as someone comes up with a product to compete with your precious Flash Player, linux users will quickly flock to it. This will happen. You can either prolong the inevitable by releasing linux versions of FP in a more timely manner or force linux users to find another solution, and allow me to reiterate my above comments, the solution won’t be to go back to Windows. You have a customer in linux users (increasing daily), I suggest you treat your linux customers with the same respect you give to Windows and OS X users else the linux community will abondon Adobe and Flash Player for a community developed alternative.Thanks for your time.A linux user.

  56. Jason says:

    Because of the abysmal lack of response from Adobe we’re left with this alternative until an open source alternative comes along.Here is an alternative workaround.Macromedia Flash 8 Basic and Professional works on any Linux via wine.You must install it first on any real windows environment (or via vmware) thenuse a hacked exe (FFF for example).(Of course: You should own a licensed version !)Patch the .exe and copy all three folders inside “Program Files/Macromedia”:”Flash 8″”Flash 8 video Encoder””Extension Manager”Goto to terminal and type:# wine Flash.exeThat’s it.

  57. Bad Move says:

    Our company site (which will remain anonymous) used flash until this latest bit with not releasing Flash 8 for linux. The web development department moved on the flash 8 and the complaintes rolled in. Due to this we have actually completely removed flash from our company web site. I don’t think we will every have it there again. This has been really dissapointing but not surprising coming from Adobe.

  58. catlett says:

    I hope and pray you become Wang. You are all so arrogant (Microsoft,Intel and Adobe). You believe your market share is written in stone and if you collude you can keep people where they are. The ground swell has already begun. Linux distros are becoming more polished and user friendly. More corporate money from linux servers is coming in and the ranks of linux users are filling not with tech elite but with working class people like me. I plaster all day and run a linux box at home. Windows has been wiped from my drive and anything not compatable with linux I do without. Remember the advertiser cannot live without the customer but the customer can live without the advertiser. What do I care if I can’t view a product advertised on your platform? That product is non-existent to me. If a product can’t be advertised on a linux box then I don’t know it exists and therefore I can’t buy it.P.S. Flash and Shockwave ads are a bunch of annoying crap anyway. I prefer my quiet linux desktop, you can keep alll that crap they advertise through your applications.

  59. Deus says:

    I don’t care about Flash, I think it’s a cancer on the Internet but some odd people think the Internet needs flashing text and sound and so I’m forced to use flash player.Macromedia have an obligation to provide flash player for every platform. If they don’t want to forfil it then release the damn source and let someone else do it!

  60. ix says:

    its slightly annoying to not be able to see all the dumb animation and video-links people pass around, but certainly not worth fiddlign with ie6+wine or anything for. the lack of oppenness and cross-platform support for Flash virtually ensures a better replacement will come out. we’re aready seeing that with the widget, Cairo support in FFox, etc. Flash? good riddance 🙂

  61. ix says:

    lets try that again:<canvas> widget, people

  62. Scott says:

    I don’t even know where to begin and considering I’m responding to a blog entry that’s over 5 months old, it probably will not even be noticed.Oh well, at least I’ll get this off my chest.This is such a double-edged sword.1. Why not stick Mac users with Flash 7 and make them wait for 8.5? Be it Mac or Linux, our numbers combined are still a blip on the radar screen compared to BillOS uhh. I mean Windows.I’m tired of commercial software/hardware vendors ignoring Linux users. We are by no means insignificant.Heck if Adobe would produce a Linux version of Photoshop it would generate more revenue, especially considering the obscene prices charged for the Windows/Mac versions.Speaking of those prices, I suppose they are to make up for the lost revenue from the 75% of those who have Photoshop but didn’t pay for it.But I digress….Flash is a tremendous annoyance and it continues to get worse every day. The use of it on web sites seems to have absolutely exploded over the past few years (and I’ve been around since Flash first appeared on web sites).It is overused, abused, usually unnecessary and makes a lot of web sites very hard to navigate (and I’m talking using Firefox or Internet Explorer in Windows). Speaking of navigation, it renders a lot of sites useless for those using screen readers.Then there are those stupid splash screens (with the “skip this”) link. How many people do you suppose click the “skip this” link? I’m willing to bet it’s about 90%.Was Macromedia giving Flash away to professional webmasters over the past few years? I just don’t get the explosion in use of it.Now we’ve got Google Video and YouTube using it as well…It’s just getting out of hand.At least for the unnecessary flash ads and such we have the lovely Flashblock extension for Firefox.Flash also can slow any web browser on Windows or Linux (probably Mac too) to a crawl and eat up a lot of resources.So Macromedia (now Adobe), how about fixing all of these annoyances.And what did you do to Flash 8 to make it so different than 7? 1/3 of the Flash sites that I actually want to use, say “you’ve gotta have Flash 8″…..

  63. Chris says:

    sounds great, a proper cross platform kit will save you guys lots of effort in supporting every platform out there. So, uh, what’s the plan for something newer than v6 on wince and linux on the ARM platfrom? with CPU’s up to 600Mhz in handhelds, memory getting so cheap, and wireless access (not wifi) getting faster and more widespread, these devices are ripe for some flash goodness!

  64. allosuser says:

    Listen, linux folks, get a grip.Yes, it does suck and it is annoying that there is no Flash 8 player out for Linux.However, you folks often live in such a reality-distortion field that you don’t realize that Adobe is not a charitable organization, nor are they just “in it for the love of the code” like so may of you dorklets.I find it amazingly strange how personal you guys take this. I have a linux box; it’s a great server. I have a windows box for desktop work. I have a mac laptop for when I want to sit in a room and feel smug and act all superior to everybody and pretend my machine never crashes. I wouldn’t, and couldn’t switch those around.Adobe will not spend money porting something to Linux unless there’s something in it for them (money). They also will not make Flash open source, since it is one of their hugest cash cows.I know some of you weirdos think this is “evil” (and throw it in with your whole crazy “omg bill gatez winbloze evil empire 666!” inferiority/superiority complex) — however, Adobe doesn’t exist to do good deeds unto the computing community – they exist to make their shareholders money and pay their employees’ salaries, while making as much of their customer base happy as possible.That’s how any company works.Unfortunately, Linux desktop users are less than a blip on their radar. Please, instead of whining in this blog, come up with some motivation for them to port something (which apparently is not trivial, as they would have probably done it already) to satisfy 1% of their user base — a user base that is notorious for never wanting to pay a dime for anything.I know, I know.. Linux is important and all of us linux users are so much smarterer than the rest of the dumb PC and weirdo Mac users. (I’m writing this in Konqueror right now. Do I get a cookie?) Please. Shut up.Maybe Linux on the desktop would catch on if the Linux/OSS community got of their damn high horse for once, and stopped bickering over useless points and haughty ideals and actually got stuff working.Linux will NEVER gain market share on the desktop as long as the elitist attitude continues, and the advice to anyone wanting to install it as a Desktop OS is “RTFM, NOOB” and “If you can’t figure it out you shouldn’t be using it, LOLS!”Great strides have been made in usability in the last ten years since I installed my first Slackware distro; but I always find that any Linux distro simply has one or two annoying gaffes or design problems, and Linux developers simply refuse to “dumb stuff down” enough for the average user.Guess what. If you want market share, Joe Sixpack has to be able to use your OS. Many of you will whine that you don’t want Joe as a user — He’ll just AOL everything up.Oh well then. Don’t bitch that the major commercial companies don’t develop for you, then. It’s one or the other.Oh, and about your ‘day without flash’ INTERNET BOYCOTTS? Please, get a life. Writing “I HATE ADOBE” on a piece of paper and sticking it under your pillow at night will cause more of an effect.

  65. jo says:

    Listen Mr Terry wake up,You sound like a Ballmer monkey.You are one of those who thinks that the world is Microsoft only. Do I have to pay for a windows flash player 8 ? Wich good web artist turns its webpage in flash 8 when you know that it can only be accessed by windows users ?A good company understands and wants to be compatable. Earning money is just one of the targets.And no, you dont get a cookie.Go get some education.

  66. Kasia says:

    I can’t use sites who want’s FP8.I can’t use http://bazgranie.pl/ and others.FUCKING MACROMEDIA, STUPID IDIOTS!

  67. Ian Hawdon says:

    At the moment, when I am making flash SWFs for my company website, I keep linux users (like my self) in mind and publish my flash movies in Flash 7 standarded (yes, downgrading my movies for us Linux users 🙂 )At the moment, this seems to be the only solution! I am amazed that a huge company like adobe can neglect the whole Linux world! Another company doing this is eBay’s Skype!

  68. b_murray says:

    same here. we have downgraded to Flash 7 again, because there were way too many hits from Linux-users. It is sometimes worth to have a look at the server stats….

  69. GeoNorth says:

    Hurry up with that Flash 8.5 plugin for Linux, I’m patient enough. I think what many Linfreaks don’t understand (apart from the fact that OSS is not a panacea and as long as the majority of people are not programmers, proprietary software will have a place in the world, just as television manufacturers, restaurants, water companies and pretty much anyone who earns a crust doing stuff for you that you need doing but can’t do yourself) is that a lot of issues with Linux and certain websites come from that particular website, I have the official, closed-source (sue me OSSfreaks) Macromedia Flash 7 plugin, yet can’t access a website that insists I need Flash 6 or above. It’s not Adobe’s fault that webmasters can’t code.Having said that, I do think it’s criminal that a de facto standard such as Flash is not available under an opensource licence (weren’t Adobe/Macromedia involved in the development of SVG?) same goes for the de facto standards that Microsoft hold onto.

  70. Warbo says:

    When m$ software is taken out of the equation then not only is Linux looked at, but also the BSDs, Solaris and a whole load of other UNIXs and non-UNIX systems. Therefore I think it is in no way supporting the Free Software community by only making a GNU/Linux port of software. Instead, all systems must be taken into account, especially with something like Flash, but even with a solely GNU/Linux port, there are so many variations due to the different distros and architectures that a single company cannot hope to maintain and bugfix a product like Flash. The only way to make something like that possible would be to make it available to the community, even if it is not to open source it, at least allow reverse engineering of the player, or perhaps come up with a licence which allows source code access specifically for porting purposes. At the moment, as far as I am aware, the SWF standard is open, but binary, and the only reverse engineering allowed is in the EU, but that is only to create compatibility with the formats used, and SWF is open anyway. Take away some of these restrictions and Adobe/Macromedia can still be the sole provider of Flash, but it can be available on many platforms and perhaps easier to bundle with more OSs. I personally think that the phrase “64bit version” is disgraceful, as it makes no mention of the actual architecture. Now that there is once again a decent split in the majority of computer users, maybe software vendors will get their act together and stop forcing users into a single architecture when it is incredibly simple to make applications which are portable to all architectures and are OS independant.

  71. George says:

    I have to assume that Emmy doesn’t work at Macromedia any more, and no one else there is reading this blog. Its sad, really, that they can’t take the time to post a single response or even delete this thread that it seems is without a purpose. It is also rude.I’d be happy to pay real cash for macromedia code that runs on linux; I pay cash for proprietary software all the time. I also pay cash for open source software, usually for the packaging or support costs.I also hack away at my linux system to make it do tricks necessary when companies like macromedia decide to ignore my needs. I do it because I enjoy hacking; certainly it isn’t for everyone.One of these days, someone will put up a service to translate flash 8+ sites to something viewable by a linux client. They will charge a small fee; I’ll be a happy subscriber. Macromedia will sue; I’ll contribute time and money to defend the site.One of these days, someone will publish an open source implementation of flash 8+ that I can use on my linux desktop. I’ll pay a small fee for it. Macromedia will sue; I’ll contribute time and money to defend the developer.One of these days, someone will create a product, open source or proprietary, that makes flash 8+ obsolete. If it runs on my linux desktop, I’ll pay a small fee for it. Macromedia will sue; I’ll contribute time and money to defend the product.Those are my predictions. Not sure which will happen first. I’m also not saying which I’m working on. I wouldn’t want to get sued by anyone interested in not seeing the results of my efforts :-)-GeorgeIndependent software developer, entrepreneur, and venture capitalist.

  72. CodeMonkey says:

    Yes, one of these days, Macromedia will choke on its own evilness and die, and linux users will dance on its grave. We get the picture.Anyway, the way most blogs work is, people post new stuff often and don’t necessarily go back to check 6 months old entries to see if anyone else felt like flaming.In this particular case, the new stuff is at http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/05/yes_virginia_th.cfmYou’re welcome.

  73. Anne says:

    It’s really outrageous that we actually have to ask for a linux version +9 months after the windows version. Not recognising linux may seem a small issue for Macromedia, but the OSS community does not forget easily, and soon you’ll be on the badguyslist filed under Microsoft and SCO. Good going!

  74. rams says:

    I can’t see Roland Garros live scoring without Flash Player 8 for Linux.Make it available soon, please!

  75. A Linux user says:

    Hi MacromediaI think Adobe is loosing its customers and important shares in the market by its attitude.Even more, they are loosing the respect of their cutomers.I am more than sure that in one or two years, an open source solution, that would better than Falsh will be more used than it.Iw the war oppsing open source software to companies like Microsoft, one would choose its side. And I think Adobe have chosen the wrong side.

  76. Phill says:

    My son rang me at work and asked if I could sign him up for Starwars Galaxies online. I couldn’t do it because you can’t even enter their site without flash 8. The best way to tackle this is to make the owners of the web sites (not the web developers) aware that their choice of software is limiting their audience. Money talks.

  77. clone88 says:

    what about free shockwave plugin for linux! is there any?

  78. steve says:

    this message pretty much summed up what i was going to say:Posted by: crist terry at May 18, 2006 06:16 PMListen, linux folks, get a grip.Yes, it does suck and it is annoying that there is no Flash 8 player out for Linux.However, you folks often live in such a reality-distortion field that you don’t realize that Adobe is not a charitable organization, nor are they just “in it for the love of the code” like so may of you dorklets.I find it amazingly strange how personal you guys take this. I have a linux box; it’s a great server. I have a windows box for desktop work. I have a mac laptop for when I want to sit in a room and feel smug and act all superior to everybody and pretend my machine never crashes. I wouldn’t, and couldn’t switch those around.Adobe will not spend money porting something to Linux unless there’s something in it for them (money). They also will not make Flash open source, since it is one of their hugest cash cows.I know some of you weirdos think this is “evil” (and throw it in with your whole crazy “omg bill gatez winbloze evil empire 666!” inferiority/superiority complex) — however, Adobe doesn’t exist to do good deeds unto the computing community – they exist to make their shareholders money and pay their employees’ salaries, while making as much of their customer base happy as possible.That’s how any company works.Unfortunately, Linux desktop users are less than a blip on their radar. Please, instead of whining in this blog, come up with some motivation for them to port something (which apparently is not trivial, as they would have probably done it already) to satisfy 1% of their user base — a user base that is notorious for never wanting to pay a dime for anything.I know, I know.. Linux is important and all of us linux users are so much smarterer than the rest of the dumb PC and weirdo Mac users. (I’m writing this in Konqueror right now. Do I get a cookie?) Please. Shut up.Maybe Linux on the desktop would catch on if the Linux/OSS community got of their damn high horse for once, and stopped bickering over useless points and haughty ideals and actually got stuff working.Linux will NEVER gain market share on the desktop as long as the elitist attitude continues, and the advice to anyone wanting to install it as a Desktop OS is “RTFM, NOOB” and “If you can’t figure it out you shouldn’t be using it, LOLS!”Great strides have been made in usability in the last ten years since I installed my first Slackware distro; but I always find that any Linux distro simply has one or two annoying gaffes or design problems, and Linux developers simply refuse to “dumb stuff down” enough for the average user.Guess what. If you want market share, Joe Sixpack has to be able to use your OS. Many of you will whine that you don’t want Joe as a user — He’ll just AOL everything up.Oh well then. Don’t bitch that the major commercial companies don’t develop for you, then. It’s one or the other.Oh, and about your ‘day without flash’ INTERNET BOYCOTTS? Please, get a life. Writing “I HATE ADOBE” on a piece of paper and sticking it under your pillow at night will cause more of an effect.

  79. Jesper says:

    clone88:You’re quite stupid if you can’t see the obvious reason for doing a linux port. The linux desktops are filling more than the mac sector now and unlike Apple’s share, we grow in numbers, add to that the fact that there are tonnes of dual-booters out there and you have a big operating system that most importantly– is *not* going anywhere any time soon. It’s like a worm, you can’t cut the head off, it will keep living as there’s no company to back us up.Why make a flash 8 player for linux ? Simple.. The reason why we choose macromedia’s flash is not because it’s a superior animating product that yields small files. That’s ok if you want to make a cartoon but it doesn’t justify it’s usage as a page-designer tool.The reason flash is so popular for sites is because it’s COMMONLY believed and acknowledged, that it will look the same on ANY browser and/or os which is a *major* problem with current html/xhtml/css sites which will be rendered differently depending on the browser.Adobe is downright stupid when they don’t at *least* keep the players on the same version for all three os’s. Because if they don’t the greatest advantage of using flash is gone, and when developers realize that they’re back in the os/browser dependancy-hell, they’ll look for other products and methods.The only thing that can happen to Adobe this way is that they loose some portions of their market. If they’re dead set on doing that. Fine.. But I’m sure as hell not paying for a flash product to desing my site as long as it’s unviewable on a linux box.

  80. fredblotnic says:

    for starters let me respond to clone88 where exactly does adobe make a profit off flash PLAYER. simply it doesnt period so porting a linux version should be well within thier reach. I dont use windows becauseI dont like how windows is setup simple as that. I pay for linux. I also am disappointed with people who make lite of my choice to be on linux. I am already being discriminated against when i visit sites that have Version 8 required for their Flash work.For adobe,I feel that if i cant get an updated flash player for linux you are segmenting a growing public into devising their own open source equivilent of flash which as linux continues to grow will hurt flash in the long run. Also with companies continuing to move to linux for even their desktop machines you are limiting the companies choices as well not just net nerds. in the long run not finding some common ground with linux and windows you are limiting the growth potential of your corporation. If you need to look at bottom line then that is fine but planning for the future is another need of any good corporation. Even Microsoft themselves have made attempts of late to create a bridge with open source devotees while still keeping their closed source business model. i would hope you will do the same and keep maintaining Flash player for linux and even maybe one day soon you can start porting your profit makers to linux as well. not all linux users are stone walled into free software. If there is a good product and i can afford it I will buy it.

  81. grackel says:

    I wish someone would create a viable flash alternative. It’s amazing that one company has this much power over the internet (my browser conistently locks up when it encounters Flash 8 on a webpage). It’s obvious that if Linux wasn’t open source… and if it was controlled by one company… then Macromedia would be all up that one company’s ass to make sure it was satisfied. A damn shame.

  82. Greg says:

    You suck you flash withholding flash heads! Here in New Zealand the number of linux users is soon going to surpass the number of sheep. This is because all the hobits left here from Lord of The Rings have take to it like Dapper Drakes to water. Now you need to sort youselves out and give us Flash8 for linux. Im serious, when hobbits cant order Elvin brides because the site is dumb enough to use only Flash8 Frodo and the guys will start another crusade – Lord of The Rings – You will see the twin towers werent nothing, if you dont give us flash.I mean seriously, you have an awesome producy – look at my favourite pizza companies website http://www.hell.co.nz. You can throw the devils around! Now that you understand all that you know you should be careful, you are in serious breech of Gods 11th commandment, dont hold out on the rightous linux dudes, or you will end up in a hell with no pizza. You hear me? NO PIZZA.

  83. Well, I’m a web developer, I develop in Linux, no flash 8 in Linux = no flash in my sites.Just an easy equation.

  84. NotImportant says:

    Well, we don’t do any flash pages any more. This means we won’t buy Adobe’s tools for creating web pages.And, that’s it.Bye Adobe.

  85. eat me says:

    Ummm, torrents!

  86. Phil says:

    Flash 7 is horribly unstable on Linux; it’s the only thing capable of bringing down my browser.I’m hoping Gnash will become more usable soon; I’ve been let down by the official flash player too much to put any hope in them ever releasing a decent version.

  87. me says:

    Flash 7 is *somewhat* functional on my machine, but with the changes in flash 8, most flash sites become useless, which is a very big inconvenience where is flash 8.5??

  88. NeedGreatFlash8OnLinuxNow says:

    We need flash 8 on Linux A.S.A.P. Hire some real Linux programmers and have it done quick. Your current guys are slowww! They must not be very familar with developing on Linux.

  89. dicole says:

    Honey, Are you guys planning to go out of business so fast?? Already your business in bad shape. Might be that most of your developers using Flash IDE ,are on Win, or Mac. That doesnt mean that you should left out the flash player client for Linux in Helbonia.If we the viewers doesnt watch what your developrs are making, how will they survive??If they wont survive, how will they afford your software?? I am sure, you guys are the worst example of Outsourcing.You have outsourced core jobs to India, where developers are cheap and stupid.Being an investor myself, after seeing your lack of support for Linux, i no more prefer your stocks either.Waiting to see you go bankrupt.

  90. Smarty Pants says:

    Sweety, I have absolutly no idea, why you hate your developers so much.They have created so much wonderful stuff using Flash, but I cant see a thing on my Linux box.Is this the way you reward your clients[the developers]??

  91. Tux ministry says:

    Please dont post anything here………CANT YOU GUYS SEE ALL THE SPAM IN HERE..NO ONE REALLY CHECK THESE COMMENTS. AFTERALL ADOBE AINT OPEN..THEY DONT REALLY CARE ABOUT ANYONE..LETS DO GNASH.

  92. Brian G says:

    where is the current Flash (9?) for Linux?This is ridiculous.. 2 full releases with nothing for Linux users..

  93. Damian says:

    Please, we need a new relase of flash linux player!!!

  94. Jamie Plucinski says:

    x64 support, and now. There is no reason why you shouldn’t be supporting x64, and to the idiots who say x64 doesn’t matter: Shutup, you have no idea what you’re talking about.x64 needs to come out for flash now, we’ve waited long enough. Screw the new version, just give us ANYTHING that works on x64.

  95. Scottux says:

    Flash 7 works great on my Kubuntu Dapper machine. But so many sites have moved on to Flash 8, and us Linux users are always left behind. We are growing in numbers every day that Microsloth releases some news about a security flaw. Open source is the future, and Flash looks like it will be left on the curb. I see that green puzzle piece and jump ship. It is clear that the population is brainwashed into believing that there is only one major operating system for the masses, and Apple for the richy minorities. Linux is becoming more and more polished with every update. Regular home users are switching after they find out they can save $1000 and still use spreadsheets, email, and word processing with ease. I have not had to recompile a single thing in Linux in years. It is a more secure, stable, environment to work in. It’s free to all, but still the world is ignoring our pleas for equality. All we ask is for the free plugins to be free for every operating system, we are not asking for you to give away the source code if you don’t want to. It owuld be nice and save a lot of headaches – but it’s okay. We will come up with our own, free, open-source, cross-browser annoying animation plugin and software. Then we will abandon Flash like a psycho ex-girlfriend, and pretend we never liked it to begin with.

  96. zogghoth says:

    the product direction @ macromedia has been such a disgrace, it’s no suprise that adobe would carry on the legacy of putting completely unbalanced energy into the development of flash.time and time again, features that geeks at macromedia specialized in, were promoted over stabilizing previous features. over and over ‘advances’ were made without providing real help; real samples, real tutorials in a depth and volume to satisfy the user community NEVER got cranked out.companies deploying flash solutions in volume and scale were forced to cull ‘splatter’ indexed forums for the same solutions over and over. the support samples and solution indexing offered by macromedia was and is a total joke.all this despite the utter brilliance of members of Macromedia’s support brigades ! the individual, dedicated heros in macromedia behind the products, don’t reach the product distribution base. they just don’t.beyond all that the OSFlash community has propagated and advanced the necessary links to the wider computing universe, and not AdobeMedia.Somehow the OS community has it left to them to build a -nix flash player ! While AdobeMedia executives enjoy their fat salaries, perks and options. The engineering teams who work on flash, while brilliant, have not been organized under a purposeful scope and balance necessary to advance flash as a true internet tool.The net is not composed of Windowz PCs, and it’s obscene that flash places itself at the hub of net navigation while ignoring the intelligent choice and diversity of operating systems on the net.Shame on you AdobeMedia. So many times we’ve offered to help and you hire only your asskissers and accept only the prophecies of your whore teams. it’s a corporate culture problem, which has created a technological problem.Any day we could help you fix it if that’s what you wanted.

  97. Big_Dummy says:

    Ok…looking at history here. And adding my opinion to the forseen future of Adobe.1.) Historically, Microsoft Murders it’s comptetition, for the most part. Also, to add to this, their Flash-Killa (Killer) will be added to Vista I’m willing to bet (There goes the need to be re-directed to Adobe’s site to get Flash, huh?)I’m thinking that this is one of the means it (M$) will use to murder Flash all-together. They love cutting-out the middle-man or just buying them out-right…then destroying all the work and credibility the organizations strived for.2.) Linux is gaining ground on the desktop and is climbing up Microsoft’s butt-hole with a royal vengence.3.) MAC is the lesser of the three, furthermore, it’s the only desktop that will be running Adobe’s products in 2007? (Just wishful thinking as we Linux users will have Gnash via Distro implemetation, Easy-Ubuntu, Automatix, YAST, YUM, CRN, Synaptic, Apt, etc…)4.) Adobe will be sinking all of it’s resources on a law suit against Microsoft, in order to get there product on Microsoft’s desktop. (Which IS going to kill them) “Less we forget Microsoft’s Anti-trust practices?????????”5.) Gnash will be in full swing by then, maybe some crashes here and there with under-developed sites. But that’s all good, as I am an ex-Windows user and used to that.I don’t think we have to beg Adobe at all, for anything. The tables will turn. They should open the source to the Linux community. Then they may have had a fighting chance against the Giants.They are still kissing the Giants asses royally. The giants will turn on them like a rabied dog. Just wait and see the fireworks, or shall I say follow the case on National T.V., as they (Adobe) gets their asses handed to them.They think they are smart, just as they (Adobe) released a version to keep the Linux community from develping it’s own client. They are attemptin to get us to hold-off and wait on their asses? Why? Especially, since they know for a fact that M$ is going to crush them.I would not let Adobe rent space in my head! Java is really feeling the pain now. Luckily for them they have really nice servers out there….Does Adobe?Adobe relies on M$ for the majority of their monies. That will come to a halt. I see a big layoff at Adobe really soon as they gear-up for the release of Vista.So, when 2007 rolls-out, I’m also thinking…so will Adobe!Gnash Me!

  98. Chris says:

    I’m not using flash period if you guys don’t consistently release Linux versions.

  99. Jürgen Sauer says:

    Here at this Company, we have a simple rule:No Linux – No SaleNo Linux version avaible – no Sale/buy of products of this company.If Adobe whants to be able to sell us anything, Linux Versions are not optional.J. SauerautomatiX GmbH, Germany, CEO

  100. 2+2=4 says:

    2 Adobe said they would release a linux version+2 They have since surpassed the expected release (8.5) to the next version, w/o linux support.=4 They will probably never release a linux version…quit complaining about lack of support. Email flash 8+ hosts, boycott and move on.

  101. Tim says:

    Their website says that flash is installed on 98% of desktops worldwide. Without flash 8 or 9 for linux, that’s a lie. I think maybe a complaint to the ftc for false advertising may be in order.

  102. brian says:

    So when is the release?

  103. ICeman says:

    We need Flash 8 for 64 bits Linux

  104. Nicolas says:

    I hate those Macromedia guys. What are they doing? Are they coding the version 8 during 12pm and 12.15pm just before lunch?There’re now a lot of websites which requires the version 8 of that damn plugin.Unfortunately, that company seem to do not bother at all about Linux users.That company just sucks !!!

  105. Bobuido says:

    PatheticI’m sick of people telling me how great Flash is. Certainly is great to be told to download a player that doesn’t exist.I recently had someone from one of the UKs most prominent Digital Communications Agencies tell me “You have to learn Flash – It’s the way forward!” and “Come and work for us” It amused me when mentioning MySQL and PHP that suddenly I was talking a foreign language. Sure…Flash makes the web go round…what’s LAMP? No I don’t *have* to learn Flash and I probably won’tI agree Flash has its uses but it is widely overused and to deny the Linux community access to websites is absolutely shockingSort it out! You can only shoot yourself in the foot so many times – You’ll find it difficult to walk on stumpsYes it would be lovely if SVG could replace FlashLovely but unlikelyThat doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try though!+1 angry Linux user waiting

  106. S.Manohar says:

    I have flash player 7 on linux and it works fine.But I need flash player 8 to view a videos on a select few websites.Is there any other software equivalent t0 flash player 8 which runs on linux machines?

  107. Bobuido says:

    Jus popped in to say – I don’t like your comments layout. IMO it’s bad design.Having the name after the horizontal rule makes it look like reavertm posted my post and S.Manohar posted nothing and I posted his post :SI’m sure you have much more important things to rectify…say…appeasing a large community of furious Linux users. Still wouldn’t take long to move one tag now would it.

  108. Nicholas A. Donato says:

    I will not use flash if AT ALL POSSIBLE in any future project. The Linux community has been shunned and betrayed by Adobe on this matter.

  109. I think it’s funny … this site is run on CFM which is/was a Macromedia product – just like flash. Maybe you should retool the site in something like PHP as a real vote of support for other technologies that live and breathe freely.Flash was such a …. flash in the pan. It’s over.Peace.

  110. KubuntuUser says:

    +1 angry Linux user waiting

  111. michal says:

    I am waiting for FP9 for Linux too.Btw. read the blog about progress http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/

  112. Alexander Schug says:

    No 8.5 or 9 linux support, no 64bit in general, no response for almost a year. These dudes actually don’t seem to care about it at all.

  113. emmy says:

    Hi,Please see today’s post. You can download the beta player now.e

  114. jcwang says:

    Adobe refuses to release source under GPL for the following reasons:1. They are making money off Flash player licenses on cell phones, etc. so they want to keep everyone else from developing a competing free player2. For other applications, Adobe has not figured out what to do in terms of business model so they would not risk freeing up a potential cash cow3. Adobe (and prev. Macromedia) has an attitude to ignore 3rd party partnership. Try to request a license for the player and you will never receive a response.Adobe will give up when the following happens:1. The open source community develops something that *remotely* looks like it will really play Flash 8+. Gnash looks pathetic as of now.2. Microsoft’s Avalon gains market momentum. But by that time it will be too late to for Adobe (or anyone) to do anything.Good luck to Adobe. Hope you soon figure out what the open source community can do to help you secure market dominance. With an open source policy your format will prevail on all electronic gadgets imaginable. It is not hard to foresee a Skype phone using Flash as its GUI if you make the right decisions.

  115. Sly says:

    Linux is still marginal for now and Adobe will start to care more about linux users when big companies will have linux desktops for all its employees (which is becoming true).Adobe will more likely develop up-to-date flash plugins if a linux distributor asks (=pays) for it, rather than a handful of whining end-users 😉

  116. Ronin says:

    a temporary solution that sometimes works is to hack the pluginreg.dat that is under your .mozilla/firefox directory.Find the flash line and change the 7 into an 8. This sometimes crashes frefox, but a lo of sites requiring Flas 8 only use the 7 stuff really.Line looks like:Shockwave Flash 8.0 r68:$(8 is changed here already).

  117. adobe sucks says:

    how hard is it to make flash player for linux? whats the difference reallyhonestly i’m not surprised, we’re dealing with the same people that fund coldfusion, the biggest steaming pile of crap for a web framework i have ever seen.YOU SUCK ADOBE YOU SUCK!!!

  118. PropBot says:

    Linux users have the same market share as MAC users. See for yourself.http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

  119. scott geater says:

    Emily – I’ve downloaded the beta for Flash 9 under Ubuntu and it is working great! thank you !

  120. Leo says:

    I think it is very unprofessional and rather stupid that Adobe would release a finished Flash player for some operating systems and not others. There are lots of sites I cant access because my flash player isn’t up to date with Windows. There is no warning (that I have seen) to developers saying that if you develop a site that runs on Flash 8+ you will be shutting out Linux users and possibly more(?)This has made me very angry with Adobe and I will cease my development with Flash driven content.I hope this blog is submitted to people that count in Adobe.

  121. Onlineshops says:

    Thanks it helps me a lot…I think these blog is really useful for new comers and Excellent resource list.

  122. emmy says:

    Hi Leo,Please see more recent blog entries. We released a beta for the Linux player a while back, and the release version will be available soon.You can install the beta from Adobe Labs labs.adobe.comregards,Emmy

  123. A linux-version of flash-player would be great. I hope adobe will make a stable version very soon.

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  130. der-vertrag says:

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  131. ivana says:

    Thanks for the planned release of flash 8.5 for linux.

  132. gry says:

    I’m not using flash period if you guys don’t consistently release Linux versions.!

  133. Zakupy says:

    I suggest you treat your linux customers with the same respect you give to Windows and OS X users else the linux community will abondon Adobe and Flash Player for a community developed alternative.

  134. svt says:

    no coment except one- lady! get rid of the spamy posts so one can read it

  135. emmy huang says:

    Hi SVT,Sorry about that! Those must have snuck in before I instituted moderation. i’ll remove them.cheers,e

  136. Katalog says:

    It would be nice if you could expedite the flash player for linux – it is rather annoying to be locked out of sites that users of windoze can access, due to the use of flash 8.

  137. Biurka says:

    I’m not using flash period if you guys don’t consistently release Linux versions.!

  138. Alex says:

    I am waiting for FP9 for Linux .

  139. emmy huang says:

    Hi,We released Flash Player 9 for Linux in beta in October 2006 and final release in January 2007. Please visit http://www.adobe.com/go/getflashplayer to download.regards,Emmy

  140. darmowe mp3 says:

    Hi MacromediaI think Adobe is loosing its customers and important shares in the market by its attitude.Even more, they are loosing the respect of their cutomers.I am more than sure that in one or two years, an open source solution, that would better than Falsh will be more used than it.Iw the war oppsing open source software to companies like Microsoft, one would choose its side. And I think Adobe have chosen the wrong side.

  141. wierszyki says:

    But it think is is very unstable!My firefox crashes when I do right click on a flash movie

  142. Bielizna says:

    FP 9 for Linux.I also wait for this.

  143. I am waiting for FP9 for Linux 🙂

  144. Arzt says:

    Got also a crash on a right-click…

  145. proxy says:

    “Linux is still marginal for now and Adobe will start to care more about linux users when big companies will have linux desktops for all its employees (which is becoming true).”you have 100% right, most of people is using Win.

  146. Now that we have an OSX, you guys shouldn’t be far off of Linux compatibility right? I understand this would depend on FP 9 for Linux getting finished up as well.

  147. emmy huang says:

    Hi,Flash Player 9 for Linux has been available since January 2007. Please visit http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux&P3_Browser_Version=Netscape4best,Emmy

  148. NixAdmin01 says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong but it appears Macromedia Inc is failing towards providing customer satisfaction with regards to the 64 bit port of their Flash players.As the current technology has been migrating to 64 bit architecture for the common desktop for quite awhile now, I’ve yet to find a solution being proposed by Macromedia towards providing some form of service/solution.Please advise.

  149. Phil says:

    thats why i changed to osx. there i get everything and there is also an flash player 🙂

  150. I have flash player 7 on linux and it works fine.Good article and site. Congratulations.

  151. luggage says:

    Woohoo for Flash Player 9 for Linux! I am very glad to see that companies are doing everything they can for users of other operating systems, but at the same time, I understand why Linux has only had access to Flash Player for two years. Everything has to revolve around what the majority of the users out there are using, and whether we like it or not, they’re using Microsoft. I agree that software developers won’t really care about Linux until and if large companies start demanding Linux tools. In the meantime, look at it from Adobe’s point of view: why spend the manpower, the time, and the resources to create software for an operating system that only a very small percentage of people use? Sadly, it’s just not practical for them yet, but perhaps the day will come.

  152. sohbet says:

    Hi MacromediaI think Adobe is loosing its customers and important shares in the market by its attitude.Even more, they are loosing the respect of their cutomers.I am more than sure that in one or two years, an open source solution, that would better than Falsh will be more used than it.Iw the war oppsing open source software to companies like Microsoft, one would choose its side. And I think Adobe have chosen the wrong side. thanks all

  153. I’m currently using Linux. My problem is that I can’t download files with swf extension. Is there anyone out there who knows how to deal with this kind of file?

  154. Woohoo for Flash Player 9 for Linux! I am very glad to see that companies are doing everything they can for users of other operating systems, but at the same time, I understand why Linux has only had access to Flash Player for two years. Everything has to revolve around what the majority of the users out there are using, and whether we like it or not, they���re using Microsoft. I agree that software developers won���t really care about Linux until and if large companies start demanding Linux tools. In the meantime, look at it from Adobe���s point of view: why spend the manpower, the time, and the resources to create software for an operating system that only a very small percentage of people use? Sadly, it���s just not practical for them yet, but perhaps the day will come.

  155. Jus popped in to say – I don’t like your comments layout. IMO it’s bad design.Having the name after the horizontal rule makes it look like reavertm posted my post and S.Manohar posted nothing and I posted his post :SI’m sure you have much more important things to rectify…say…appeasing a large community of furious Linux users. Still wouldn’t take long to move one tag now would it.Posted by: Bobuido at September 5, 2006 08:06 AM

  156. wuef says:

    for starters let me respond to clone88 where exactly does adobe make a profit off flash PLAYER. simply it doesnt period so porting a linux version should be well within thier reach. I dont use windows becauseI dont like how windows is setup simple as that. I pay for linux. I also am disappointed with people who make lite of my choice to be on linux. I am already being discriminated against when i visit sites that have Version 8 required for their Flash work.