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Audition 3 on a Mac??

We love our Macs, but a few of us are not loving that Audition still runs only on Windows. However, with an Intel-based Mac running Leopard and a copy of 32-bit releases of Windows XP or Windows Vista, Boot Camp could be the answer for you. In fact, our team has found that running Audition 3 in Boot Camp is no different than running it in Windows on a laptop or desktop with good hardware specs (For Audition system requirements, please go to: http://www.adobe.com/products/audition/systemreqs/.)

When I want to record multiple tracks of audio with full effects and monitoring, I run Audition using Boot Camp. Audition works smoothly on an Intel Mac because Boot Camp runs Windows natively, just as any PC would. However, when all I want is to make some minor edits, restore some noisy files or perform some batch conversions, I run Audition from OS X using virtualization software from VMWare or Parallels. Virtualization has opened the door to all sorts of new possibilities for our application library making the OS less important as systems get more powerful, CPUs get more cores and memory gets cheaper. Both Parallels Desktop and VMWare Fusion allow you to run Windows sessions without logging out of OS X (you can even use them with a Boot Camp installed partition). And since the VMWare Fusion and Parallels Desktop hardware configuration is customizable, you can adjust the amount of RAM available, which USB or Firewire devices it has access to or several other parameters.

So basically, if you plan to use Audition on an Intel-based Mac for one-track recording, light multitrack mixing, or editing and restoration, both Parallels Desktop and VMWare Fusion will do the job. If you want to record and mix multiple audio tracks, you should run Audition using Boot Camp.

Durin Gleaves

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Hi there Durin,

Thanks for the mention of VMware Fusion as a great way to run any Windows application on a Mac!

Quick point of clarification: None of the virtualization products on the market right now support firewire peripherals passing through to the guest OS.

That is, while you can use VMware Fusion to run a virtual machine whose file package lives on an external firewire drive, the guest operating system for the virtual machine, in this case, Windows, will not be able to see the firewire peripheral.

So if you're running Audition 3 in a Windows XP virtual machine, for example, that Windows XP VM won't be able to read/write to firewire hard drive for example.

Hope that helps, and if you have any questions about VMawre Fusion technical details, our user forums are a great place for those: www.vmware.com/go/fusionforums.

~Pete
VMware Fusion Product Marketing

Do you know that Win XP run really better and faster on a Mac Pro with Boot Camp than a conventionnal PC ?

Thanks, Pete. That is an important point to note, and for users with Firewire gear, starting up Windows via Bootcamp will be the best solution.

It's also important to note that Microsoft's Virtual PC does not support USB devices, so it's probably not the best choice for many of our needs.

Durin

The experience the team has had regarding the speed of running Windows via Boot Camp has been positive. It pretty much depends on the hardware specs of your Mac.

Well gentlemen,

it seems as if either you were both terribly lucky, or I am just terribly unlucky. After installing XP via bootcamp, I must say I have been TERRIBLY disappointed in the performance of Adobe Audition. It doesn't matter if I'm using the Audition Windows sound driver or my ASIO, it's extremely choppy and distorted at random.

I bought this brand new Macbook Pro with the new 2.4GHz Penryn & 4GB DDR2 Ram (I know that only 3GB is accessible in Windows) with high hopes..

needless to say I'm quite saddened that I can't use my favorite software.

:(

Joey

Well gentlemen,

it seems as if either you were both terribly lucky, or I am just terribly unlucky. After installing XP via bootcamp, I must say I have been TERRIBLY disappointed in the performance of Adobe Audition. It doesn't matter if I'm using the Audition Windows sound driver or my ASIO, it's extremely choppy and distorted at random.

I bought this brand new Macbook Pro with the new 2.4GHz Penryn & 4GB DDR2 Ram (I know that only 3GB is accessible in Windows) with high hopes..

needless to say I'm quite saddened that I can't use my favorite software.

:(

Joey

Hi Joey,

I just quickly verified on one of the Macbook Pro's in the office that playback wasn't choppy or distorted, so maybe we can investigate a bit and see what's going on. Once booted into Windows, Audition should behave as if it was running on a really nice system - even with the default drivers and settings.

Let's concentrate first on the default Audition Windows Sound driver and the built-in audio card. If you open Audition, switch to Edit View, select Edit > Audio Hardware Preferences, make sure "Audition Windows Sound" is selected as the driver, and open the control panel dialog. It should display "Sigmatel Audio" as the default audio device. Make certain the buffer size is set to 2048 and click OK a few times. Open a file and press play and see if audio is still distorted or choppy.

If so, then we need to diagnose further before trying to look into ASIO drivers and whatnot. If you could send an e-mail to audbugs@adobe.com and let me know your results, we can continue to troubleshoot and get this running as expected.

Thanks,
Durin

Joey,

I'm with you there. When I bought my Mac awhile back, I was so excited to get Bootcamp so I could use Audition with it. It's so choppy... and I'm so disappointed.

Marnie

"We love our Macs, but a few of us are not loving that Audition still runs only on Windows. However, with an Intel-based Mac running Leopard and a copy of 32-bit releases of Windows XP or Windows Vista, Boot Camp could be the answer for you. In fact, our team has found that running Audition 3 in Boot Camp is no different than running it in Windows on a laptop or desktop with good hardware specs..."

This is too true. The one improvement over running AA at completely native speeds in bootcamp that I think is foremost in many users' minds is, not having to use bootcamp or deal with any windows operating system. The reason I left windows, and I suspect this is true of many among us, is that I never want to have to use it again.
Dual-booting or VM'ing is NOT an acceptable mode of operations in this case.

I appreciate that it is difficult to port AA from its windows trench to the Mac OS, and that alone is a reasonable reason why Adobe does not want to take the time and spend the money necessary to do such a thing, but it is insulting to suggest that wasting 10 Gigabytes on a Windows partition and booting back and forth between what one clearly sees as a superior versus inferior system experience, is "no different" from running it natively in OS X.

I know the quoted text above is out of context and that the full quote reads: "no different than running it in Windows...." But that is the key point isn't it? Mac users do not want to use windows. It is frustrating and addlepated, antiquated and clunky.

Just as it is reasonable for Adobe to withhold the port of this program, it is completely reasonable for me to continue to complain about it. Come on Adobe! I have money in my pocket that I am waiting to give to you.

It is in the best interest of Apple-lovers and -haters alike to have this port competed: for the former it allows them REAL access to the most advanced and powerful DAW available, and for the latter it would show that formerly exclusively PC program can kick the pants out of a recently exclusively Mac one (i.e. the ludicrously misnamed "Logic Pro").

I am left only with text-based-begging... please please please please please ... PLEASE make it so.

At my University we'll NOT be upgrading to VistaME but are migrating everyone to OS/X.

Respectfully Adobe...it's 2008, please port Audition to Mac!

Hi,

I personally like running Audition on Fusion for the Mac. I have this on my intel iMac and it runs beautifully. It is also a kick to have it run simultaneously with the Mac programs. I can have my XP up and running in one large window and simply move back and forth between xp pro and mac osx (no rebooting required). Fusion also accesses my usb jumpdrives and my CD/DVD's.

Hello,

Please port Audition to the mac, I have a firewire audio interface which I'd like to record my mixes from. Cash waiting!!

James.

I Agree with many of the comments above. I went from a PC to a Mac in the hopes I would NEVER have to deal with Microsoft EVER again. I have office 2008 for mac and wouldn't you know it is the only program that doesn't run flawlessly on my Mac. Every time my friend tried to install Windows his Mac, Windows caused major issues. He took it off and it all ran smoothly. i am noticing a trend. Mac good, Microsoft bad, no matter what platform your on!! Do us all a favor, Bring Audition to Mac. I love editing with it and the only thing I hated was that windows seemed to limit the ease of use and effectiveness of the program.

Ok ok ok...

Enough with the Fanboi crud. If you love your Mac/Linux/Windows great.

It's becoming like politics and the choice/pro-life debates... you know, the people who yell (or type) the loudest... are the most brainwashed, insecure, minority that makes everyone else (even if they are on their side) cringe.

I own both.

Neither is universaly more stable...

Each has it's advantages.

Request software to be ported on your OS of choice, but Grow up... no side is "Bad" or "Evil"...

(Insert eye roll here)

i had forgotten about that post...haha

well after alot of research i ended up installing vista via bootcamp....and as long as you disable the wifi card/graphics card...and kbdmgr, the choppiness is gone and the program works pretty good.

still pretty lame adobe wont bring it to mac though.

-joey

Hello,
I have bought three Mac books for the Wife and Daughters. First ever. After running them for almost a year I am sold on them. I will keep PC's in my office and Mac's for the house. Now when the new MAC book pro comes out I will be running Audition on it. I hope to have a Mac based version of it. If you can do this for me Adobe I will give you Free front seat tickets to the Grass Valley BlueGrass festival and a signed copy of our new CD.

Best Regards, Dan

Less than a month ago I switched...to MAC that is. I have been a PC user since the early 90's. I have four dedicated PCs on my network and attach two more laptops when necessary.

I just bought a MAC Pro because of what I've heard about it being robust, ease of use, etc. So far I am enjoying the experience. And the learning curve is not as steep as I first feared.

I am however a bit disappointed that I cannot get AA 3.0 for MAC. I just purchased a cross platform upgrade to Production Premium CS4 and was told by the sales rep that Soundbooth would be easier to use. I downloaded the trial and do not have a clue as to where to begin.

I have used Audition since it was Cool Edit Pro. So I am accustomed to moving up with the changes. I don't relish the thought of having to first of all purchase AA 3.0 as a separate upgrade and then running it in windows.

I sure wish Adobe would listen to its longtime customers....like me and others...and make AA 3.0 available for MAC. I am still learning so I suppose I will just need to bite the bullet and make the adjustment:(

I really could use a copy of this for my Mac.

I understand the politics may be a bid dodgy....

So, is Audition ever going to be available for OS X?

Thanks,
Russ

I will just be adding my name to the list here. Switched to a Mac and would like AA 3.0 for OS X. I don't want to have to keep my old HP. I'd rather not have to install Windows on my pretty new Mac either.

I have the newest Macbook pro with a 2.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 4GB Ram. Im running my Virtual PC with Vista buisness trying to get Adobe Audition just to play tracks and I cant seem to get it to work?

It doesnt want to playback; it warns that maybe my card doesnt support the necessary playback. I get the following error:

Device: Speakers (Creative AudioPCI (ES1371, ES1373)

Errorcode: FFA-8-000d [888900f]
info: Playback failed. The audio system does not seem to respond. Maybe card does not support full duplex mode.

Any ideas as to what im doing wrong?

Hi Bryan,
Have you tried running this using VMWare Fusion or Parallels? We haven't tested this on Virtual PC. My understanding is Virtual PC is not supported on Intel-based Macs.

You could also trying using Boot Camp on Leopard instead.

Regards,
Lawson

I'm NOT installing Windows on my new Macbook. I work at a radio station and I wanted to do some editing on my own and I'm using a Mac for Final Cut. Please have a version of Audition for Mac. This is redonkulous.

I am returning to windows because of this issue.

I was ready to buy Audition until I learned that it doesn't run on OS. While I understand that Adobe doesn't want to pay for cross platform development of a specialized product, it strikes me as bad form for a company that positions itself as supporting creative types. Some folks don't want to buy or install Windows--and touting workarounds, i.e. "run it using Bootcamp", is offering patches, not solutions.

Just adding my 2 cents. I just bought the latest and greatest Macbook pro and have been a long time cool edit/audition user. my opinion: come on already Adobe, grow a brain and give us a Mac version of audition. theres money to be made !!!

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