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	<title>Comments on: Feedback, please: kuler in Photoshop?</title>
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		<title>By: DuckHugh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5324</link>
		<dc:creator>DuckHugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I write about Kuler For FLASH and DW plugs-in~
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i also hope PS have Kuler plugs-in~
Lucky for Mac user~
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write about Kuler For FLASH and DW plugs-in~<br />
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i also hope PS have Kuler plugs-in~<br />
Lucky for Mac user~</p>
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		<title>By: billseymour</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5323</link>
		<dc:creator>billseymour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 14:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about: use the *same* swatch palette system in Ps as exists in Ai (minus the Ai gradient swatches, I would assume).
There is no sense behind the different treatment of swatches in Ps- a totally confusing mess, no swatch groups, etc. These are two products by the *same* company, that are designed to function *interactively*.
Photoshop is used by many as the &#039;coloring&#039; step in illustrations- bringing the swatch palette into the &#039;Ai&#039; world would tremendously help this use of Ps, in particular.
--Bill
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about: use the *same* swatch palette system in Ps as exists in Ai (minus the Ai gradient swatches, I would assume).<br />
There is no sense behind the different treatment of swatches in Ps- a totally confusing mess, no swatch groups, etc. These are two products by the *same* company, that are designed to function *interactively*.<br />
Photoshop is used by many as the &#8216;coloring&#8217; step in illustrations- bringing the swatch palette into the &#8216;Ai&#8217; world would tremendously help this use of Ps, in particular.<br />
&#8211;Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Biggs</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5322</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Biggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kuler in Photoshop? Sure, but Photoshop needs more than Kuler. Kuler is a cute way to share palettes. Photoshop&#039;s color palette creation and management is just terrible compared to Illustrator&#039;s and I&#039;ve never understood why this is. I&#039;d like to create custom swatch palettes in Photoshop but being limited to &quot;appending&quot; or &quot;replacing&quot; what is already there is awkward. How about being able to move color groups and swatches around in a list, like in Illustrator?
So back to Kuler. As long as Photoshop&#039;s swatch management is as clunky as it is, Kuler won&#039;t help. In fact it would likely just make it more frustrating.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kuler in Photoshop? Sure, but Photoshop needs more than Kuler. Kuler is a cute way to share palettes. Photoshop&#8217;s color palette creation and management is just terrible compared to Illustrator&#8217;s and I&#8217;ve never understood why this is. I&#8217;d like to create custom swatch palettes in Photoshop but being limited to &#8220;appending&#8221; or &#8220;replacing&#8221; what is already there is awkward. How about being able to move color groups and swatches around in a list, like in Illustrator?<br />
So back to Kuler. As long as Photoshop&#8217;s swatch management is as clunky as it is, Kuler won&#8217;t help. In fact it would likely just make it more frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5321</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, i&#039;m also curious about this...
It&#039;s not question to me that sdk&#039;s, scripting api&#039;s and integration helper&#039;s have trendemous value.. especially for in-house developpement of production framework.
But i would understand adobe not putting money in developpement if such use is only a minor part of the user business.
From the activity of the forums, it doesnt look like there is TONS of pluggins/tools developper...
Is there any public data available about this market? (pluggins/tools for photoshop users and more broadly of CS suite?).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, i&#8217;m also curious about this&#8230;<br />
It&#8217;s not question to me that sdk&#8217;s, scripting api&#8217;s and integration helper&#8217;s have trendemous value.. especially for in-house developpement of production framework.<br />
But i would understand adobe not putting money in developpement if such use is only a minor part of the user business.<br />
From the activity of the forums, it doesnt look like there is TONS of pluggins/tools developper&#8230;<br />
Is there any public data available about this market? (pluggins/tools for photoshop users and more broadly of CS suite?).</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5320</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never have asked that...
Is there a reason why (at least from what i know) there is not tools in the SKD to help the integration of a non-modal (native) palette in photoshop?
It`s surely a requirement to have flash integration!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never have asked that&#8230;<br />
Is there a reason why (at least from what i know) there is not tools in the SKD to help the integration of a non-modal (native) palette in photoshop?<br />
It`s surely a requirement to have flash integration!</p>
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		<title>By: Zoli</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5319</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would welcome this in Adobe Photoshop and all Adobe products.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would welcome this in Adobe Photoshop and all Adobe products.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Sotheren</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5318</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Sotheren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As if you wouldn&#039;t want that!!
Can&#039;t believe it&#039;s not already added.
&lt;i&gt;[Heh--hey, I have to ask, and I don&#039;t want to lead the witnesses, so to speak.  --J.]&lt;/i&gt;
And while you&#039;re at it, why leave out AE and FL...
&lt;i&gt;[Why indeed.  This, to me, is the beauty part of designing something using a cross-application, cross-platform extensibility mechanism: it has the potential to &quot;just work&quot; in all the apps of interest.  --J.]&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As if you wouldn&#8217;t want that!!<br />
Can&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s not already added.<br />
<i>[Heh--hey, I have to ask, and I don't want to lead the witnesses, so to speak.  --J.]</i><br />
And while you&#8217;re at it, why leave out AE and FL&#8230;<br />
<i>[Why indeed.  This, to me, is the beauty part of designing something using a cross-application, cross-platform extensibility mechanism: it has the potential to "just work" in all the apps of interest.  --J.]</i></p>
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		<title>By: Juan Sanchez</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5317</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forgot to add this and I&#039;m not sure if you can do this in Bridge already. I think it would be great if you could create an &quot;Asset Palette&quot; that allows you to group things like color swatches, images, logos, text, etc. as a dynamic grouping of assets you might need for a client. For example, I create an asset palette for CompanyXYZ and when I fire up Photoshop I can  somehow select that asset grouping and the color palette for that company will load and  whenever I select File &gt; Open I get a dynamic list of folders that reflects the grouping I created in Bridge. No more hunting around for different folder locations for a single client.
&lt;i&gt;[It&#039;s certainly possible to add panels to Bridge today, using JavaScript and/or SWF to form the interface.  As for having certain things happen upon opening certain files, I&#039;ve always had my doubts as I think it could be more confusing/annoying than beneficial.  --J.]&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to add this and I&#8217;m not sure if you can do this in Bridge already. I think it would be great if you could create an &#8220;Asset Palette&#8221; that allows you to group things like color swatches, images, logos, text, etc. as a dynamic grouping of assets you might need for a client. For example, I create an asset palette for CompanyXYZ and when I fire up Photoshop I can  somehow select that asset grouping and the color palette for that company will load and  whenever I select File &gt; Open I get a dynamic list of folders that reflects the grouping I created in Bridge. No more hunting around for different folder locations for a single client.<br />
<i>[It's certainly possible to add panels to Bridge today, using JavaScript and/or SWF to form the interface.  As for having certain things happen upon opening certain files, I've always had my doubts as I think it could be more confusing/annoying than beneficial.  --J.]</i></p>
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		<title>By: Juan Sanchez</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5316</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Often times we need to access the same set of color swatches that reflects a client&#039;s corporate standards and this would be a great way to do it. Aren&#039;t you limited to 5 swatches though?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Often times we need to access the same set of color swatches that reflects a client&#8217;s corporate standards and this would be a great way to do it. Aren&#8217;t you limited to 5 swatches though?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5315</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d love to have a kuler palette.  Maybe Bridge could have a module for managing favorite kuler swatches?
&lt;i&gt;[Perhaps.  There&#039;s always a bit of a trick in knowing which browsing/management features belong in Bridge vs. which belong inside each app.  Maybe Bridge could be a front door to all of one&#039;s Adobe settings, which would in turn be auto-synched with a server.  That way, any copy of Photoshop could become your copy on demand.  --J.]&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to have a kuler palette.  Maybe Bridge could have a module for managing favorite kuler swatches?<br />
<i>[Perhaps.  There's always a bit of a trick in knowing which browsing/management features belong in Bridge vs. which belong inside each app.  Maybe Bridge could be a front door to all of one's Adobe settings, which would in turn be auto-synched with a server.  That way, any copy of Photoshop could become your copy on demand.  --J.]</i></p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5314</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since I don&#039;t know much about Kruler, this brings to mind a second idea.
I think that ALL new features in CS4 should be a preference, which if non selected would prevent the code from loading and hence (I hope) make the applications faster.  By preference I am thinking of an additional pref method, options perhaps :)
If possible, legacy code I know, I would like to see this done with a lot of the current features too.  The levels adj layer is an example at least in concept---I use curves for everything now.
The features could all be turned on by default to help the less experienced users.  But experienced users I think would greatly appreciate even a long and VERY complex &quot;set of preference choices&quot; if it would aide speed of operation.
Bridge is a prime candidate for this; namely turning the loupe/loading 100% option off so we don&#039;t suffer on large files.
Old historic features that you hate to drop, but would really like to, would be another group to &quot;optionize&quot; (TM pending on &#039;optionize&quot;  :).  Would apply to the extended parts of PS CS3 too.
Maybe legacy code that is hard to &quot;turn off&quot; could be commented out?  or something.  Obviously I am not a software guru.
Scott
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I don&#8217;t know much about Kruler, this brings to mind a second idea.<br />
I think that ALL new features in CS4 should be a preference, which if non selected would prevent the code from loading and hence (I hope) make the applications faster.  By preference I am thinking of an additional pref method, options perhaps :)<br />
If possible, legacy code I know, I would like to see this done with a lot of the current features too.  The levels adj layer is an example at least in concept&#8212;I use curves for everything now.<br />
The features could all be turned on by default to help the less experienced users.  But experienced users I think would greatly appreciate even a long and VERY complex &#8220;set of preference choices&#8221; if it would aide speed of operation.<br />
Bridge is a prime candidate for this; namely turning the loupe/loading 100% option off so we don&#8217;t suffer on large files.<br />
Old historic features that you hate to drop, but would really like to, would be another group to &#8220;optionize&#8221; (TM pending on &#8216;optionize&#8221;  :).  Would apply to the extended parts of PS CS3 too.<br />
Maybe legacy code that is hard to &#8220;turn off&#8221; could be commented out?  or something.  Obviously I am not a software guru.<br />
Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5313</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In light of the recent logo fop aux, this is actually a great idea. I designed my new site around a color theme that I made at Kuler.  This would have been a great thing to have.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In light of the recent logo fop aux, this is actually a great idea. I designed my new site around a color theme that I made at Kuler.  This would have been a great thing to have.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Wilday</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5312</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Wilday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would completely love this idea. I suggest being able to simply drag and drop color harmonies right into your swatches palette. What a great idea. I am sorry it wasn&#039;t done sooner.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would completely love this idea. I suggest being able to simply drag and drop color harmonies right into your swatches palette. What a great idea. I am sorry it wasn&#8217;t done sooner.</p>
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		<title>By: Monika Gause</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5311</link>
		<dc:creator>Monika Gause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve used the kuler-palette in Illustrator beta (and gotten used to it). Unfortunately it&#039;s not available in the German version. So besides including kuler in Photoshop, could you please enable it in  international Illy-versions? And please let us have the knowhow-palette as well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used the kuler-palette in Illustrator beta (and gotten used to it). Unfortunately it&#8217;s not available in the German version. So besides including kuler in Photoshop, could you please enable it in  international Illy-versions? And please let us have the knowhow-palette as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Adolfo Rozenfeld</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/feedback_please_kuler_in_photoshop.html#comment-5310</link>
		<dc:creator>Adolfo Rozenfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this would be completely amazing, as long as the PS SWF Kuler panel had an &quot;Add to swatches&quot; button like the SWF Kuler panel for AI. Is the folder-with-plus-sign icon for this purpose?
&lt;i&gt;[Yep.  As I say, it&#039;s just a crude mockup--the kind of thing you get when a PM hacks together some screenshots--and it&#039;s missing a number of details.  Still, I figured it would communicate the general concept.  --J.]&lt;/i&gt;
I would love to have an implementation of LiveColor in PS as well, though.
BTW, Color Theory is a standalone app/plug-in designed by Matt Silverman and commercialized by Digital Anarchy. I have to agree that it has many features that are not available at all in LiveColor or Kuler. Like better randomization options, and above all, a series of 10-15 different visualization patterns to see how color combinations would work. These patterns (bull eye, random circles, etc) are so beautiful that sometimes you just wish to use that as an end result, rather than a visualization tool!
&lt;i&gt;[Good to know, thanks.  I&#039;d like to make it possible for developers like Matt/Jim to reveal this kind of functionality in a palette, instead of just in a modal dialog box, if doing so would be useful.  --J.]&lt;/i&gt;
It feels easier to use and more powerful than Kuler, but of course, it doesn&#039;t have the &quot;community&quot; aspect.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this would be completely amazing, as long as the PS SWF Kuler panel had an &#8220;Add to swatches&#8221; button like the SWF Kuler panel for AI. Is the folder-with-plus-sign icon for this purpose?<br />
<i>[Yep.  As I say, it's just a crude mockup--the kind of thing you get when a PM hacks together some screenshots--and it's missing a number of details.  Still, I figured it would communicate the general concept.  --J.]</i><br />
I would love to have an implementation of LiveColor in PS as well, though.<br />
BTW, Color Theory is a standalone app/plug-in designed by Matt Silverman and commercialized by Digital Anarchy. I have to agree that it has many features that are not available at all in LiveColor or Kuler. Like better randomization options, and above all, a series of 10-15 different visualization patterns to see how color combinations would work. These patterns (bull eye, random circles, etc) are so beautiful that sometimes you just wish to use that as an end result, rather than a visualization tool!<br />
<i>[Good to know, thanks.  I'd like to make it possible for developers like Matt/Jim to reveal this kind of functionality in a palette, instead of just in a modal dialog box, if doing so would be useful.  --J.]</i><br />
It feels easier to use and more powerful than Kuler, but of course, it doesn&#8217;t have the &#8220;community&#8221; aspect.</p>
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