February 08, 2008

Wine offers improved Photoshop-on-Linux support

Wine, the open-source compatibility layer for running Windows programs on top of Unix-style operating systems, has been updated to offer improved support of Photoshop CS2.  Using the latest updates (of which another has been posted today), it should be possible to run PSCS2 for Windows on top of Linux.

Wine release manager Dan Kegel reports, "As of wine-0.9.54,
Wine is able to install, activate, and run the retail version of
Photoshop CS2 well enough for the average early adopter to use
(with caveats, e.g. you have to install the Times32 font first,
and ImageReady and Bridge aren’t supported yet)."  Check out WineHQ’s Photoshop page for more details.

[Pre-emptive, comment-saving non-disclosure: No, I don't have other info/plans to share concerning Photoshop on Linux, and yes, we know that Linux folks would like a fully native PS on Linux implementation.  Just thought I'd spare you some typing. ;-)]

Posted by John Nack at 9:48 AM on February 08, 2008

Comments

  • Brett — 9:59 AM on February 08, 2008

    I know you just did the preemptive blurb, but nevertheless: I’m still a bit amazed and surprised that Adobe didn’t release photoshop & co for linux.
    [The question is, and always has been, whether Adobe could achieve meaningful revenue growth by offering a third version of Photoshop. Would porting to Linux bring in tens of thousands of new users (those who aren't already using PS on Mac or Windows), or would it simply shift part of the existing user base to a different OS? --J.]
    John Knoll’s brother is at ILM and they’re pretty much on linux workstations. And so many other studios and professionals would welcome Adobe on linux.
    [No doubt. In my experience, however, those shops (a very specialized demographic) either run multiple workstations per artist (one Linux, one Mac or Windows), or they use a virtualization system to run Windows on the Linux box. --J.]

  • Henrique Zap Pimentel — 10:58 AM on February 08, 2008

    couple months ago i wrote in my blog about why don’t have Adobe CS for linux.
    So, i think isnt hard to Adobe do it couse if you think Mac OS is a “kind of” linux.
    So is nice to think in linux to mount a superworkstation just to get maximum power of Adobe CS.
    ;)

  • Erik — 11:04 AM on February 08, 2008

    I don’t know how often (if ever) companies pay attention to how wine handles their software. While actually porting is ideal, I wouldn’t be surprised if in many cases a few minor tweaks would vastly improve support under Wine.

  • Peter — 11:05 AM on February 08, 2008

    Considering that Corel used to marked Wine-based versions of PhotoPAINT as Linux ports, I think that’s quite remarkable.
    Very few people actually know that there used to be a version of Photoshop for Unix (SGI’s Irix to be precise) way back when SGI’s Eclipse was still a competitor (By the way, does anybody know what happened to the latter after Form & Vision went bankrupt?). Here is a historic screenshot of Photoshop 3.0.1 :)

  • Kevin Newman — 11:31 AM on February 08, 2008

    That’s a great point about the business decisions involved with whether or not to port your suite to Linux (or to a specific distro like Ubuntu).
    I’d only suggest that perhaps in the short term, Adobe could invest a small amount in helping Photoshop and the rest of CS3 (and future versions) work on wine more easily (through code contributions to Wine and/or some level of Wine testing, and perhaps some directed advice about which wine libraries need work). I’d have no problem running Wine if it’ll let me finally switch to Ubuntu full time (neither would most of the type of Linux users who’d be willing to spend money on proprietary software I’d bet – at least for a while).
    As it stands now, Adobe’s software is the only major proprietary software that still holds value IMO, and is the only software that I rely on that chains to me Windows.
    Just my 2 cents.

  • Sean Upton — 12:15 PM on February 09, 2008

    Okay, so some thoughts. I lead the software development team for editorial projects at a large daily newspaper – my primary working environment is Linux for most projects (which are more and more web-based and server-side these days, making Linux a good choice even for a traditional publishing comany). But my team is also starting to pick up a substantial ExtendScript work for automation (primarily InDesign CS3). Working in Virtualization with big graphics apps is pretty painful, from my experience. What Adobe could do, I would think with minimal cost at more-or-less break-even would be to partner with someone like CodeWeavers to leverage/sponsor Wine to create a first-class experience with the Windows version of Photoshop and other suite applications. Developers, engineers, and industrial artists are the target here. This would give Adobe more control (well, influence) over Wine, making it a more predictable target for the wide-range of products that could target technical/creative professionals.

  • Marc — 7:42 AM on February 10, 2008

    My comment might be a bit naive but i often wondered how small open-source apps can deliver across all platforms (see blender and gimp for example) when much bigger companies with much much bigger money can’t.
    In blenders case for example it’s stunning how sophisticated it already is and has almost all the tools (in some cases even more) found in pro apps like maya or xsi.
    Anyhow i wish there will be some technology in near future where companies & developers can code 1 version and it ports it automatically for all platforms.

  • Erasmo Acosta — 10:27 PM on February 10, 2008

    I run Fedora 8 at home and have been waiting for ages to get CS2 or CS3 to run on WINE. As soon as 0.9.54 was announced, I downloaded it from the Fedora updates-testing repo and started to test. Despite having a complex processing workflow, I found very few bugs (I reported them all). Only 2 are true bugs (not duplicates) and 1 of them don’t even happen on CS3, but on the Cannon DPP application.
    CS2 starts up on my P4 3.2 ghz (4Gig) faster than on my dual core laptop with 2Gig of ram, which is very interesting considering that the Core 2 Duo’s are supposed to be much faster and have DDR2 memory. Behavior under WINE seems as good. On my processing I create multiple adjustment layers, masks and run complex scripts to generate luminosity masks and sharpening. I cannot be happier (well, maybe when CS3 works). I already store my photographic work on a RAID 5 on my fedora box, but I’ve always wanted to be able to say that I produce my photography work entirely on Linux. I feel that day just got a whole lot closer.

  • Dave — 12:54 PM on February 13, 2008

    Marc’s comment is spot on. Small projects manage ports quite easily, should be a piece of cake for Photoshop considering the already existing Unix port for Macs, right?
    [You're kidding, right? --J.]
    Your comment above, “Would porting to Linux bring in tens of thousands of new users” is probably correct though, it wouldn’t bring in a flood of new users, it would enable users to switch to an OS they might prefer. I guess it comes down to the bottom line, customer satisfaction or profit?
    [We aim for both. I'm irritated by the simplistic suggestion that the two are opposed. We have a finite set of development and testing resources, so time spent making one improvement almost certainly comes at the expense of making others. Satisfying each group of customers is weighed against satisfying other groups, and in these analyses, size matters. --J.]
    Anyway, this is great work on the part of the Wine team and the interns employed by Google.

  • fjf — 1:21 PM on February 13, 2008

    Adobe on Ubuntu!! Yes!! And while this may result in existing customers making a platform shift those customers will also be saving $$ that they can then use to buy more Adobe Ubuntu apps!!

  • Dave — 9:51 PM on February 13, 2008

    You’re kidding, right? –J.
    No, I was asking as I don’t know. I thought (perhaps naively) that it might be simpler because of the sheer number of *nix applications that are cross platform.
    [Sorry, I didn't mean to be crabby. Photoshop takes advantage of a large number of OS-provided technologies for the interface, printing, etc. We work hard to make everything look consistent, but one can't simply move the app from one OS to another. --J.]
    I’m irritated by the simplistic suggestion that the two are opposed.
    Yes, I know it’s simplistic, but in this case, for this small group of [Linux] users, it is what they perceive. They don’t care about the 99.5% of other customers, they care about themselves, and they will perceive that profits are being put ahead of their satisfaction. This is how people think. Perhaps I should have worded my comment differently.
    [You're certainly right about some users' perceptions. I'm trying to make the point that we have to weigh the needs of one group vs. others, and that the calculus is one of "how much good can I do for the maximum number of people (who'll then be happy and pay Adobe)" rather than one of "how can I shortchange customers and thereby get paid." --J.]

  • Peter Sandersen — 4:09 AM on February 15, 2008

    As someone who uses photoshop regularly and who’s recently switched to ubuntu full time I’ve been using both a virtualized windows xp environment and wine to run photoshop, and while both version 7 and cs 2 now run well under wine, the only deal breaker is that the text tool is *much* slower under wine, while everything else is roughly the same speed.
    Surprisingly I’ve actually found running photoshop virtualized under linux to be better than windows alone because using the zoom feature in compiz fusion I can smoothly and instantly zoom in and out of images using the mouse wheel, and without any annoying aliasing that plagues the normal photoshop zoom tool. Give it a shot, under some workflows you’ll be amazed at the added value compiz fusion offers you.
    And while its understandable from a short term business sense (I’m a marketer myself) that Adobe doesn’t find a linux venture profitable, in the longer term linux is gaining more and more traction and free open source competitors are improving. People switching from windows will naturally try the FREE native open source solutions, find them very lacking and end up running photoshop virtualized or under wine.
    But how long can Adobe count on the incompetence of its open source competitors? Sure the gimp is horrible *now*, but with numbers of *normal* people using linux climbing every day is it really the best business move to force your customers to try alternatives to your product as they migrate to another growing platform?
    If running native photoshop was simple and straightforward on linux would people that are used to its interface even try alternatives? Would there be much drive from the mainstream for alternatives, or to improve existing open source graphics software?
    Naturally you can’t really talk about Adobe’s internal business reasoning, but to me it would seem that the direct cost of porting photoshop to linux would pale in comparison to the indirect losses you could incur from forcing your customers to try your competitors products, while giving those same competitors a giant head start on their native platform.

  • Geoffrey Sneddon — 4:31 AM on February 15, 2008

    At a simpler level than doing a full port (as I doubt whether you really would make enough to offset the cost of porting), is there any reason why you don’t employ one or two people yourself to work on WINE to try and get PS CS3 to work better on other OSes?

  • Zeroth — 10:11 AM on February 15, 2008

    Its a careful balance. But again, Linux still accounts for less than 1% of the market overall.
    Maybe higher in the workstation market; of course, the statistics are largely unknown.
    I happen to agree with the others, that it would make financial sense to go cross-platform. It would serve to make your codebase tighter, better to work on, since its compartmentalized better. It would enable penentration of a new and expanding market. PS is the superior product to GIMP, for now. But as long as Adobe is afraid of Linux, GIMP will only get better.
    Don’t forget, the GIMP is cross-platform. ;)

  • Harald Haarfagre — 10:53 AM on February 15, 2008

    The one reason i`m still on windows is Photoshop, I can live witout all other apps expt “the one”
    I could migrate to Mac, but.. To damn expensive here in Norway, and the hardware is not that good exept the Powermac`s.

  • MKx — 3:33 PM on February 15, 2008

    Wouldn’t it be more risky for Adobe to lock itself to a single outlet in the long run? Windows is an OS owned by MS, a company with its own strategies and development plans. Unfortunately, Mac is not PC. I think it’s of Adobe interest to increase the size of Linux PS community even on the expense of Windows PS community. Adobe can take advantage of Linux in many ways that could benefit it software-wise or maybe at some stage in future even hardware-wise.

  • Gezim Mavriqi — 4:58 AM on February 16, 2008

    I think Adobe should begin to provide applications for linux platform…

  • Jonathan Enns — 10:56 PM on February 16, 2008

    I have been free from windows for a while now. I parted with Photoshop 7, Flash & Dreamweaver MX, and a few other good apps, but I found replacement. In Ubuntu I use GIMP for editing. I wish I could use photoshop. I wish I could use Adobe LightRoom, instead I use LightZone.
    Currently I don’t own any Adobe Products. If they ported to linux I would most likely buy Photoshop, InDesign, LightRoom, Illustrator, and Dreamweaver.
    Until then I use GIMP, Scribus, LightZone, XaraXtreme, and Quanta+ to do those things. All good, capable programs, which are getting better, but still not as polished as any of Adobe’s products.

  • Roy — 4:47 AM on February 17, 2008

    John, I think it might be a good idea to start working towards cross platform compatability.
    Linux is steadily gaining ground, and is growing by the day. More and more people are switching.
    Apps like MS Office, Photoshop and a few others are currently making that switch difficult for people, but they will switch, eventually. They’ll use emulators, virtualizations for now, but it’s not ideal.
    The French police has or is switching, 70.000 computers. Many governments are looking towards desktop-linux now that it’s matured.
    Adobe should try to get one step ahead on it’s competition, and plan for the future now.
    CHeers

  • Andre — 6:35 AM on February 17, 2008

    First of all I think its great that Google sponsors it. And I hope that Adobe developers assist with technical details.
    Your products rock, guys. Not Office, the Adobe product line is the real Windows lockin.
    I would prefer to run a Linux cluster for Video and image editing. I doesn’t matter for home users but in the professional field you really want your software to run on fast machines with giant storage devices. Linux is here a more flexible environment and very cheap. It would create a whole new market for professionals.

  • Daniel Schildt — 4:27 PM on February 18, 2008

    Andre: Idea of Adobe video editing software in Linux cluster is quite interesting. With several computers as render nodes it could increase power of software and make video production much faster than what currently while lowering total cost of system (compared to software from Avid). It would also remove need for seperate closed video rendering/interface hardware they have that costs about 14000 euros (that they have with Avid Media Composer).
    I don’t know if having Linux support in your software is good thing in short term but you should consider possibilites that it could offer. I know that state of Linux distributions is quite mixed and that could make things more difficult but if you would focus in several main distributions to help develop better support for Photoshop using WINE, it could give more ideas for developing things further.
    Having Linux support (for Photoshop) is probably not big priority at your developement plans, but like some people proposed having several of your (or Codeweavers) people to improve software support could be good move for your clients (at least in long run). At least I would be very interested to have better support for that…

  • Darren Whitley — 9:32 PM on February 19, 2008

    So if Adobe were to make a Linux-native version, why wouldn’t they consider making an entire Linux distro all of their own.
    I suspect the team of designers who maintain Photoshop for both OS-es have a list of gripes they would change about OSX and XP/Vista.
    Tangent ahead:
    Color management is probably the number one problem in computer graphics. There are too many cooks offering color management? Adobe should create one common interface to manage the CMS regardless of OS. Printer-based CMS should plug into an Adobe “master control” without a user having to turn off printer-based CMS everytime you print. Turn it off once and it stays off.

  • Subair Mohammed — 9:41 PM on February 19, 2008

    Well, Whatever may be I have learn Linux to learn UNIX(Solaris particularly) But unfortunatly I couldn’t get a copy of Solaris to learn solaris So I end up by learning Linux. Later Solaris available as even free. But I don’t go back to Solris because I am addicted by linux.
    Thats said Adobe will be the looser later in this arena as people will look for alternatives to replace your all product and eventually they will be addicted by that product and never use your product when you make them in the last movement. Already there are momentums, Like “Inkscape” “scribus” GIMP( guess if they are ready or someone change the GUI of GIMP to something unimaginable to users what will happened?)
    So who is early on linux they won. History showing that!!
    Look at SUN Microsystem with their policy on all their products, They are too late…

  • Birger K. — 5:54 AM on February 20, 2008

    Is really cross platform code that hard? Or is it that it is hard to clean up the existing code base?
    There are very good tool sets for cross platform software. I believe that Adobe is already using the Qt4 toolkit from Trolltech(soon to be Nokia) for the PDF SW. Other alternatives are GTK+ and vxWidgets.

  • Lorenzo — 8:05 AM on February 20, 2008

    Google has been done a really great work on the Wine project till now.
    It would be awesome if Adobe would hire (even just one or two) developers in order to join the effort, fixing bugs and providing useful technical informations — as somebody previously said.
    Also, I think Adobe should re-consider the Qt4 Framework adoption, a really powerful tool providing advanced *cross-platform* features.
    From Trolltech.com:
    “Qt simplified our task by providing high-level tools we could customize to meet our needs. The product is excellent, the support was outstanding and we are extremely pleased with our decision to go with Qt.”
    (Mike DePaoli, Adobe Photoshop Album)

  • Don McCahill — 7:25 AM on February 21, 2008

    It is not just a matter of converting code (which would be a massive job with the millions of lines of code that I am sure are now in PS). There is also the support aspect of the equation. Adobe probably has hundreds of support people who are trained in either Mac or PC, or both. Adding Linux into the mix would mean hiring additional staffers who know that OS, or training existing staff.
    Another consideration is that of testing new versions. A major part of each new release is the debugging of the versions, and you now want to add 50% to that bill be going to a third platform.
    As John suggests above, Adobe will start working on a Linux version the day they decide that it will be profitable to do so.

  • Dan Kegel — 11:12 PM on February 21, 2008

    Peter Sandersen said the
    text tool is too slow in Wine;
    I’ve filed http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11680
    for that. More details would be helpful; in a quick test the text speed seemed ok, so I must not know what to expect.

  • MihailNaydenov — 1:54 PM on February 24, 2008

    Maybe these are the last years when Adobe could make some more money out of the Linux platform before “the free alternatives” become “good enough”.
    [Is that supposed to encourage or discourage us spending time and money porting Photoshop to Linux?
    And by the way, I'm sick of hearing about "growing desktop Linux use" or the "growing popularity of GIMP" without any evidence to back up these casual statements. If people have real data, that's fine. In the meantime, I could use less pedantic finger waving and cluck-clucking about, "Oh, you'd better watch out Adobe; you've going down..." --J.]

  • Dan Kegel — 1:05 PM on February 25, 2008

    Peter Sandersen (who mentioned a text tool speed problem in a previous comment) reports via email that with wine-0.9.55, the speed problem is gone, and performance is now on a par with virtualbox for him.

  • Vinicius Lobosco — 2:15 PM on May 14, 2008

    Johan,
    I understand that it is not trivial to port to Linux, but isn’t it a little (at least a little) surprising that another company (Google) is doing this port without access to the source code?
    [Let's be really clear: "Google" isn't "porting" Photoshop. Some guys at Google paid some other folks to improve WINE, a Windows emulation layer for Linux, in such a way that Photoshop would run. That's great, but it's utterly different than saying that anyone is porting Photoshop, much less that Google (the company) is doing so. --J.]
    A thought struck me: A bunch of people would be very satisfied if Adobe could
    collaborate a little more intimately with Google, right? Can’t Google do the work? But I’m not seen the difficulties.

  • Phil Martella — 10:22 AM on June 04, 2008

    Unfortunately I have no evidence to support this, but Adobe has already won in “competition” with GIMP. Every commenter on this blog, including myself, would rather run PS as opposed to GIMP, by any means necessary (WINE, VM, etc…). Therefore, for Adobe to use up resources to port PS to Linux would be a massive opportunity cost for Adobe to compete in a different type of market. As a web developer, I would Love to have all the manipulation ability of PS done with a PHP script. ImageMagick is superior to GD, but I’m sure Adobe could really do some damage. Then you could write an entire image manipulation interface online.

  • Kathy Hildebrand — 12:16 PM on June 04, 2008

    One of the main reasons why many fire up Photoshop in Linux instead of GIMP is because of CMYK support and higher color depths. This will allegedly change in GIMP’s favor with GEGL and with other improvements.
    As these GPL apps gain more functionality, it will become even more unlikely that Adobe will see a market in Linux. Why pay for Adobe apps when there are free options? Of course, as most of these GPL apps are also cross-platform, Adobe may already be losing some of its Mac and Windows customers. I know I am buying a lot less licenses from Adobe because of these GPL apps. This trend would not change even if Adobe started offering its apps for Linux.

  • Cory Gagliardi — 12:30 PM on June 08, 2008

    Dreamweaver & Photoshop on Ubuntu please!!!
    There is no substitute to either program, and as impressive as Wine may be, it is basically worthless. I have been a Dreamweaver user sense v2.0. I only use Windows to use Dreamweaver and Photoshop.
    If Dreamweaver & Photoshop were available on Ubuntu, I would never use Windows again.

  • Kurt Fehlhauer — 12:48 PM on July 02, 2008

    Photoshop is the only application keeping me on Windows. I’d dump Windows in a heartbeat if I could run PS on Ubuntu Linux.

  • marc stender — 1:04 PM on July 11, 2008

    @Cory & Kurt: this link might interest you: http://noteearty.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-to-run-dreamweaver-cs3-in-ubuntu.html

  • Alex Gibson — 8:26 AM on July 19, 2008

    I would use PS on Ubuntu for the next few years if it was ported.
    That said, I will be sad to see PS go when teh GIMP obsoletes it. My head says ‘Long Live Photoshop’ but my heart says ‘Bring out the GIMP’.
    Sorry, but it’s only a matter of time. I can has free clone of PS? Thank you Interwebz!

  • Frederick Wrigley — 2:31 PM on August 16, 2008

    I recently migrated to Ubuntu Linux (couldn’t stand Windoze one more day) and tried to install my legitimate copy of Photoshop Elements 6. I cannot get past the registration screen. It does not recognize my mouse clicks and just sits there. I’m using the latest version of WINE. Any ideas?

  • felipe alvarez — 1:08 AM on November 02, 2008

    Maybe you should try asking your WINE related questions on the WINE site (winehq.org)

  • Marc — 6:11 PM on November 23, 2008

    I´m using also Ubuntu for most things like “Officework” – only Design/Graphic-Jobs still keep me on Windows and Mac – Please go ahead for a port! Most of my co-wokers complaining about the same problem – they wanna skip the OS – but Adobe keeps them in chains…

  • mycotek — 11:31 PM on December 20, 2008

    i think that apple and ms are paying adobe under the table not to develop for linux cuz they know all the mac and win users will dump their proprietary os/s for linux instantly.
    maya and xsi are both linux and everyone loves it. this site is just some excuse to avoid legal dispute.

  • Marc Beankie — 3:26 AM on February 09, 2009

    Hey John,
    i know this post is quite old now, but i just wanted to add my voice, for statistics.
    I’m a graphic designer and switched from Xp to Ubuntu a year ago. Just like others say here, i’m missing just Photoshop. Everything else is better on Ubuntu already.
    I can’t get my fast workflow with GIMP, but i’m using it, missing alternatives. PS with WINE never worked for me complete. Sometimes crashes, sometime the toolbox was displayed wrong, and other bugs.
    I really would love Photoshop on Linux and i really would LOVE to pay the price for it. I’m using a free OS, but not because it’s free but because it’s superior to Windows.
    After all, i would like to hear if anything has changed recently, now that some Adobe Apps like Air are available for Linux. Is there any chance we get Photoshop anytime?
    Thanks, Marc

  • Articulate Bond — 3:45 AM on February 09, 2009

    @mycotek
    That is the first and only explanation that I’ve read for why Adobe won’t port PS for Linux, that even begins to make sense.
    I don’t think there’s any money actually changing hands though – under or above table.
    I think Adobe realizes that, strategically, they can’t leave the other proprietary software giants out to dry (porting PS to non-proprietary OS’s will do just that) because if they do – they know they’ll be the next to go.
    Though this is, at best, a stopgap measure.
    Hopefully they’ll switch sides when it doesn’t make any PR or monetary sense to ally with Microsoft and Apple.
    Here’s holding fingers for the Wine project to succeed and maybe for the current financial crisis to force Adobe’s hand a little.

  • NoDaddy.com — 2:15 AM on February 20, 2009

    a year later… where’s CS4 on wine?
    [You'd have to ask the WINE guys. I haven't heard from them in a while. --J.]

  • NoDaddy.com — 2:19 AM on February 20, 2009

    Does adobe use linux for their webserver?
    Does adobe use linux for their PBX?
    Does adobe use linux for their helpdesk?
    [Who cares? --J.]

  • sheldon — 9:43 PM on March 19, 2009

    the only reson im using windows is because of photoshop

  • Gavin — 5:40 AM on April 17, 2009

    Why not provide an “installer” like “ID” have done with their game franchises for linux. Users buy the Windows/OSX version and download an installer from a torrent or ftp site that provides the vital linux files and copies the relevant libraries from the CD/DVD. Putting a linux specific version of CS3 or CS4 out is a big ask for an OS with such a small market share, but delivering an installer would only cost development time.
    Just an idea.
    With Government’s all over the world and the UK Government putting FOSS on an equal footing, something needs to happen sooner or later.

  • JT — 6:53 PM on May 12, 2009

    Well dreamweaver is a waste of time in general (homesite still is a better program) but we definitely need photoshop on Ubutu.

  • Antoine Nélisse — 10:47 AM on May 30, 2009

    Hi John,
    You asked for statistics about the growth of GNU/Linux users ratio… here they come ;-)
    These statistics are those of internet users all across Europe. A large part if not all client computers running Adobe CS* has a connection to the internet. These surveys can only give us hints, though, but I think they are relevant with the debate here.
    Surveys are from the AT Internet Institute (formerly known as Xiti Monitor).
    The shares of the main 3 OS families in january 2007 were :
    Windows – 95.64%
    Mac OS – 3.23%
    Linux – 0.73%
    The same in february 2009 are :
    Windows – 93.82%
    Mac OS – 4.59%
    Linux – 1.24%
    This shows us that many people left Windows for Mac OS & Linux. The reason might be, according to ATII, the poor performances of Windows Vista, and the improvement of Mac OSX and Linux. So there IS a “wind of change” coming, and I guess it will get bigger as time goes.
    My question is : what is the difference between Mac users and Linux users ? Mac has “only” 4.6% of users. Still, they got their native version. More and more companies and govs (France, the UK, Belgium, Switzerland,…) switch to Linux, preferring to pay for support than for the OS itself.
    You always tell us Adobe could port the CS to Linux if there were enough users, but this is an endless circle. Many users wait for Adobe to do so before switching to Linux.
    By creating the offer, you create the demand ;-)
    [Thanks for the hard data, Antoine. I'm a little pressed for time, but I appreciate the quantitative data. I can at least mention that as part of the Mac Cocoa architectural rework, we're endeavoring to make the Photoshop code base more portable. It's a big project. --J.]

  • Mark Armstrong — 7:07 PM on June 17, 2009

    I moved from Windows to Mac last year, and got CS3 to go with it.
    Carbon is C++ isn’t it? So, the Mac and Windows versions probably shared some code. Cocoa is Objective C. And, I imagine Microsoft is probably pushing you to do things in .NET (perhaps managed C++).
    I wish you well in your endeavor. Am impatient for the Cocoa Adobe apps, but can understand the work involved.

  • fox_mulder — 8:41 PM on July 28, 2009

    The reason why everyone uses and will use Windows is Photoshop, surely Adobe knows that fact and surely they stay in business relation with MS and Mac, so dont except a change in future.
    The truth is, everyone can use it on Linux allready without problems, and every linux user will blame adobe because everyone is forced to use portable or cracked versions to get it run on compatible layers.
    Even Google knows that fact and is doing ‘good’ work like pay wine-devs for getting that work done Adobe never wont make
    You at Adobe are bastards you greatly take ressources out of gpl and linux and dont get us – as a community – anything back
    Linux will take over the world, dont you see it?
    Be a part of it or go die
    fox

  • OuahabiX — 11:07 PM on August 22, 2009

    I don’t think Adobe will port their great stuffs soon to Linux, I mean something like PhotoShop or AfterEffects, but seriously I wasn’t taking GIMP that heavy way until and finally I ended up doing the same things I do with PS on Windows with GIMP on Ubuntu, even the PS brushes are loadable now either they are .abr, .gbr …etc or the rest of the other formats, and let alone the bless of using Blender alongside GIMP for 3D modeling objects and the other manipulations, companies who are porting their Apps to Linux are already gaining an early ground for the future like Autodesk, it has already launched the Linux version of Maya and some great effects tools like FumeFX and others, hopefully PS CS4 is running now somehow normally on Linux through Wine which I wish that it will get improved by time, I mean by the work of both teams, Adobe & WineHQ teams, and all this MS is manipulating Adobe would be just a hoaxes.
    But come’on Linux is faster, Smoother and more flexible, and it can run what we want to run at the startup or remove what we don’t which gave us a boost to make our speedy mega-PC a reality, and I believe if Adobe ports After Effects and PS to Linux I bet that most of the Film Making Studios will switch and revert then to Linux that will save them hundreds of thousands of dollars they used to buy licenses with, and they can focus more after that on paying for the Software they use not the OS they used their Software on its platform.
    Anyway, good luck everybody!

  • Vyke — 9:37 AM on December 15, 2009

    I think Adobe should offer CS products (at least photoshop) for Linux simply because this is currently an open door for competition to steal market share. If I were a company quietly developing an application to compete with Adobe’s Photoshop and I realized that a large percentage of technical users would switch to Linux if an adequate product allowed them to edit images (better than gimp…more at the level of Photoshop) then I would gain a significant share of Adobe’s business simply by releasing my product. This is not a chance to satisfy the 0.5% (as guessed above, much higher in my opinion) but instead a chance to prevent a much higher percentage from bailing on Adobe products when a good Linux alternative pops up.

  • Edward Jones — 12:34 PM on May 04, 2010

    i think that adobe is gay for not making photoshop, it is just incouraging people to hack it

  • David — 5:36 PM on May 11, 2010

    If Microsoft has no involvement with Adobe, then why can’t Adobe make ALL of its products run on Linux and make more money from sales as a result?
    It can’t be impossible to achieve, as many programs that run on Windows also have a Linux version. TrueCrypt is an example and OpenOffice.org is another and so on. I think Adobe are just being lazy, don’t care or both?
    I would be very happy to see software like Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator etc. run on Linux. I wonder if Adobe staff are reading this and taking it seriously?????? I’m trying to help both Adobe and their customers with this comment – really I am.

  • rony — 10:51 PM on July 04, 2010

    yes if adobe release all products for linux then i will through away windows from my all pcs and lappies.

  • ben — 4:30 AM on October 19, 2010

    Only CS2!!?? Come on, it’s CS5 now.

    I must admit it is really frustrated to know this.
    I’ve just tried to install Adobe Master Collection onto Ubuntu 10.04, but failed due to damaged or missed Adobe Application Manager. I am wondering when will the solution come true.

    Adobe should provide linux version of their products, since Apple is attacking Adobe. If Adobe make Linux version of Flash CS/Photoshop, many designers will consider to move to Ubuntu.

    In our company, we are considering switch to Ubuntu, and using it as the standard computer. Less virus issues, and faster speed, more stable..why not? But Adobe is the only concern now, Adobe is really a lazy company, as Jobs said. It will lose market soon.

  • Robert Kent — 11:52 AM on February 28, 2011

    Adobe, please reconsider creating a version of CS5 and beyond for Linux.

    At the very least, please ensure that they are compatible with Wine.

    Btw… does anyone know if there is anything similar to Wine for Mac OSX applications? If not, why not?

  • jon banquer — 3:32 AM on April 21, 2013

    I don’t know what all these Linux guys are snivelling about … I use Photoshop on Irix all the time. Version 3 but it still does the job :D

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