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		<title>By: michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[do you know if you can still use third party software with the cloud programs? like photoshop with poser? this is the only thing i need to know. thank you

&lt;i&gt;[It&#039;s just regular Photoshop, same as ever (i.e. it&#039;s not in the cloud).  --J.]&lt;/i&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you know if you can still use third party software with the cloud programs? like photoshop with poser? this is the only thing i need to know. thank you</p>
<p><i>[It's just regular Photoshop, same as ever (i.e. it's not in the cloud).  --J.]</i> </p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/04/adobe-creative-cloud-nicely-encapsulated.html#comment-46235</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[any update on Lightroom availability yet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any update on Lightroom availability yet?</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/04/adobe-creative-cloud-nicely-encapsulated.html#comment-44108</link>
		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 08:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You also mention that Touch Apps are included, but this looks different:

https://creative.adobe.com/plans#

&lt;i&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.adobe.com/store/en_us/popup/offer/touchapps.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the info you need&lt;/a&gt;.  --J.]&lt;/i&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You also mention that Touch Apps are included, but this looks different:</p>
<p><a href="https://creative.adobe.com/plans#" rel="nofollow">https://creative.adobe.com/plans#</a></p>
<p><i>[<a href="http://store.adobe.com/store/en_us/popup/offer/touchapps.html" rel="nofollow">Here's the info you need</a>.  --J.]</i> </p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/04/adobe-creative-cloud-nicely-encapsulated.html#comment-44107</link>
		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 08:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry but this is way wrong and a dealbreaker for me...
We are talking about digital distributions here. There is no extra cost of shipping to Europe or anything. Why the price difference?

50USD to 50EUR would be acceptable but not this....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but this is way wrong and a dealbreaker for me&#8230;<br />
We are talking about digital distributions here. There is no extra cost of shipping to Europe or anything. Why the price difference?</p>
<p>50USD to 50EUR would be acceptable but not this&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/04/adobe-creative-cloud-nicely-encapsulated.html#comment-44106</link>
		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 08:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[adobe cloud 49,99$ a month (USA)
adobe cloud 61,49 euro a month (europe)

1 dollar = 0,759589821 euro


!!!!!!!!!!
Do you think we are rich over here???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>adobe cloud 49,99$ a month (USA)<br />
adobe cloud 61,49 euro a month (europe)</p>
<p>1 dollar = 0,759589821 euro</p>
<p>!!!!!!!!!!<br />
Do you think we are rich over here???</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/04/adobe-creative-cloud-nicely-encapsulated.html#comment-43630</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 02:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John,

Any word on the Lightroom question?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Any word on the Lightroom question?</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John,

I wonder if its possible for you to answer Laurent B-Roy and my earlier posts concerning whether Lightroom or Photoshop Touch and other apps for the iPad and Android are included, as stated in Harry McCracken&#039;s quoted article.

The Adobe website seems to contradict his statement but I would like confirmation as I am looking at upgrading to both LR4 and CS6 and I need to understand if a Creative Cloud subscription on its own could meet my needs or if I wold also have to upgrade LR.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I wonder if its possible for you to answer Laurent B-Roy and my earlier posts concerning whether Lightroom or Photoshop Touch and other apps for the iPad and Android are included, as stated in Harry McCracken&#8217;s quoted article.</p>
<p>The Adobe website seems to contradict his statement but I would like confirmation as I am looking at upgrading to both LR4 and CS6 and I need to understand if a Creative Cloud subscription on its own could meet my needs or if I wold also have to upgrade LR.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul HH</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/04/adobe-creative-cloud-nicely-encapsulated.html#comment-43475</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul HH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope that when you can tell us more that you’ll be able to say that Adobe will be &#039;rolling out features continuously&#039; for CS box sets as well as Creative Cloud.

Upgrading from CS5 Web Premium is going to cost $1150 (£714) in for me in the UK, and $749 for folk in the USA, so I hope Creative Suite owners will still be valued customers.  Creative Cloud is exciting, but for various reasons its not right for me yet.

Really looking forward to playing with CS6 Illustrator and Photoshop together!  Just a bit concerned about getting a raw deal and being a second class Adobe citizen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that when you can tell us more that you’ll be able to say that Adobe will be &#8216;rolling out features continuously&#8217; for CS box sets as well as Creative Cloud.</p>
<p>Upgrading from CS5 Web Premium is going to cost $1150 (£714) in for me in the UK, and $749 for folk in the USA, so I hope Creative Suite owners will still be valued customers.  Creative Cloud is exciting, but for various reasons its not right for me yet.</p>
<p>Really looking forward to playing with CS6 Illustrator and Photoshop together!  Just a bit concerned about getting a raw deal and being a second class Adobe citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: BJ Nicholls</title>
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		<dc:creator>BJ Nicholls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You’re always entitled to the newest version of all the programs, and Adobe says that it’s going to start rolling out features continuously rather than waiting for sweeping upgrades every couple of years.&quot;

Yep, that&#039;s the strategy that will make Adobe a monopoly creative software utility that should now get the attention of antitrust regulators around the world. People buying perpetual licenses will find themselves without bug fixes (I should say, with even fewer bug fixes).

&lt;i&gt;[No, that would be totally unacceptable, and I&#039;m sorry you got that impression.  I&#039;m talking about *feature* enhancements, not bug fixes.  Delivering the former can&#039;t be allowed to impede delivering the latter.  --J.]&lt;/i&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You’re always entitled to the newest version of all the programs, and Adobe says that it’s going to start rolling out features continuously rather than waiting for sweeping upgrades every couple of years.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep, that&#8217;s the strategy that will make Adobe a monopoly creative software utility that should now get the attention of antitrust regulators around the world. People buying perpetual licenses will find themselves without bug fixes (I should say, with even fewer bug fixes).</p>
<p><i>[No, that would be totally unacceptable, and I'm sorry you got that impression.  I'm talking about *feature* enhancements, not bug fixes.  Delivering the former can't be allowed to impede delivering the latter.  --J.]</i> </p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/04/adobe-creative-cloud-nicely-encapsulated.html#comment-43446</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for answering back. I knew that this was the place to come to post my concerns. Thanks again for listening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for answering back. I knew that this was the place to come to post my concerns. Thanks again for listening.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[adobe cloud 49,99$ a month (USA)
adobe cloud 61,49 euro a month (europe)

1 dollar = 0,759589821 euro

go fuk yourself adobe!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>adobe cloud 49,99$ a month (USA)<br />
adobe cloud 61,49 euro a month (europe)</p>
<p>1 dollar = 0,759589821 euro</p>
<p>go fuk yourself adobe!!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the best step Adobe could ever have taken. I&#039;m very, very excited by Creative Cloud. Possibilities are endless. And I like the idea of rolling out features continuously. Seems like it&#039;s the only way to go in this fast changing world.
Love it !!
Only downsides are :
Being in South Africa I see we aren&#039;t entitled to the first year reduced rate for existing clients.
And being an Adobe Software reseller I can see that part of my business vanishing completely - great for the consumer but bound to be some job losses along the supply chain - not a complaint really since the user benefits through cheaper pricing, but still worth a tiny thought for those involved in sales.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the best step Adobe could ever have taken. I&#8217;m very, very excited by Creative Cloud. Possibilities are endless. And I like the idea of rolling out features continuously. Seems like it&#8217;s the only way to go in this fast changing world.<br />
Love it !!<br />
Only downsides are :<br />
Being in South Africa I see we aren&#8217;t entitled to the first year reduced rate for existing clients.<br />
And being an Adobe Software reseller I can see that part of my business vanishing completely &#8211; great for the consumer but bound to be some job losses along the supply chain &#8211; not a complaint really since the user benefits through cheaper pricing, but still worth a tiny thought for those involved in sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 07:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As far as I can see from the Adobe site Creative Cloud DOES NOT include Lightroom or Photoshop Touch and other apps for the iPad and Android. Can you please clarify whether this is correct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can see from the Adobe site Creative Cloud DOES NOT include Lightroom or Photoshop Touch and other apps for the iPad and Android. Can you please clarify whether this is correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/04/adobe-creative-cloud-nicely-encapsulated.html#comment-43425</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 06:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John,
A question and then a comment...

The bit about &quot;rolling out features continuously&quot; has me concerned. While it sounds great, how will compatibility between Cloud and boxed versions not be an issue? Will the print house I send files to need to have two versions of the CS6 apps?

&lt;i&gt;[This is an excellent question, and teams will need to tread carefully here.  It would really suck if my copy of CS6 couldn&#039;t talk to your copy of CS6 just because we elected different payment options.  On the other hand, as a product builder, it sucks to keep people waiting for functionality you could deliver sooner, if only we did more incremental releases.  I think it&#039;ll come down to making feature enhancements that don&#039;t affect the file format &amp; thus interoperability.  --J.]&lt;/i&gt; 

This is the part of this whole deal that seems made up to me. Like marketing/sales needed one more bullet of differentiation. If we&#039;re not talking CS7 level features, and just minor teaks and corrections to the app&#039;s behaviors, why wouldn&#039;t Adobe put that out to all CS6 users regardless if they are Cloud or box users? Even Microsoft has made tweaks and adjustments to Office for Mac to address Lion and not charged their users or withheld the bug fixes until they can charge for them. I understand about access to &quot;new&quot; apps in the Cloud subscription being not available to box users, but not keeping parity with the core apps is puzzling.

&lt;i&gt;[Some of this comes down to accounting rules (&quot;revenue recognition&quot;) that non-experts like me have a hard time elaborating on publicly (and that you frankly wouldn&#039;t want to delve into).  As I say I&#039;ll try to address all this in more detail soon.  --J.]&lt;/i&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,<br />
A question and then a comment&#8230;</p>
<p>The bit about &#8220;rolling out features continuously&#8221; has me concerned. While it sounds great, how will compatibility between Cloud and boxed versions not be an issue? Will the print house I send files to need to have two versions of the CS6 apps?</p>
<p><i>[This is an excellent question, and teams will need to tread carefully here.  It would really suck if my copy of CS6 couldn't talk to your copy of CS6 just because we elected different payment options.  On the other hand, as a product builder, it sucks to keep people waiting for functionality you could deliver sooner, if only we did more incremental releases.  I think it'll come down to making feature enhancements that don't affect the file format &amp; thus interoperability.  --J.]</i> </p>
<p>This is the part of this whole deal that seems made up to me. Like marketing/sales needed one more bullet of differentiation. If we&#8217;re not talking CS7 level features, and just minor teaks and corrections to the app&#8217;s behaviors, why wouldn&#8217;t Adobe put that out to all CS6 users regardless if they are Cloud or box users? Even Microsoft has made tweaks and adjustments to Office for Mac to address Lion and not charged their users or withheld the bug fixes until they can charge for them. I understand about access to &#8220;new&#8221; apps in the Cloud subscription being not available to box users, but not keeping parity with the core apps is puzzling.</p>
<p><i>[Some of this comes down to accounting rules ("revenue recognition") that non-experts like me have a hard time elaborating on publicly (and that you frankly wouldn't want to delve into).  As I say I'll try to address all this in more detail soon.  --J.]</i> </p>
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		<title>By: Laurent B-Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurent B-Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 04:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you sure it include Lightroom? I don&#039;t see it on the buying guide page...

http://www.adobe.com/ca/products/creativecloud/buying-guide.html

Also... available to Canadians? It sure look interesting! Oh, last question : Adobe include some mobile device tool (touch apps I think they&#039;re called). Those aren&#039;t included I suppose?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure it include Lightroom? I don&#8217;t see it on the buying guide page&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.adobe.com/ca/products/creativecloud/buying-guide.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.adobe.com/ca/products/creativecloud/buying-guide.html</a></p>
<p>Also&#8230; available to Canadians? It sure look interesting! Oh, last question : Adobe include some mobile device tool (touch apps I think they&#8217;re called). Those aren&#8217;t included I suppose?</p>
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