Comments on: This is *not* your father’s Adobe installer http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html Sun, 19 May 2013 00:49:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Paul Howson http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html#comment-44546 Paul Howson Sun, 27 May 2012 19:21:37 +0000 https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/?p=6762#comment-44546 Hi John,
Does the App Manager tell you the SIZE of each app download? People with monthly download quotas might need to choose carefully what they download and when. Presumably many of these apps are very big downloads?

[It doesn't, but that's a good suggestion. I think you can safely assume they're all big. ;-p --J.]

]]> By: Claudius http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html#comment-44473 Claudius Sat, 26 May 2012 09:27:34 +0000 https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/?p=6762#comment-44473 Does it feature a way to download once and then deploy to several machines? I’d hate to download 30 GB worth of Creative Suites at my company.

[Not to my knowledge. There are certainly some possible optimizations they could make. --J.]

]]> By: Michael Long http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html#comment-44384 Michael Long Thu, 24 May 2012 20:38:49 +0000 https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/?p=6762#comment-44384 I upgraded to the cloud, downloaded Dreamweaver, and then was told I had an 89-year free trial.

Can I get a refund and stick with the free trial??? (grin)

Screenshot here: http://www.iSights.org/2012/05/adobe-creative-cloud-forecast-free.html

]]> By: Mark Jenkinson http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html#comment-44356 Mark Jenkinson Thu, 24 May 2012 12:45:55 +0000 https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/?p=6762#comment-44356 Hi Eric, I know how to launch apps. :) Like I said, there’s no Application Manager in the Applications folder. I see an “Adobe Application Manager” FOLDER in the Utilities folder, but again, it’s not an app, and there’s no app inside of that folder. If I dig a little deeper, I eventually find the “Adobe Application Manager.app” located here: /Volume/Applications/Utilities/core/Adobe Application Manager.app but, as I’ve already mentioned, when I launch it, the only option it gives me is to perform an update check on the apps already installed. There’s no option to install new apps. It seems as though this is not the experience of most, so I’m sure this appears like I’m a complete noob. :) I assure you, I am not, and just relaying a bad user experience, that might want to be addressed. I suppose this is not the experience for everyone?

]]> By: Steiner http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html#comment-44354 Steiner Thu, 24 May 2012 12:19:43 +0000 https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/?p=6762#comment-44354 Definitely great work on the installer. That being said, I had CS5.5 installed, and just upgraded to CS6. I would have liked the installer to recognize my previous version (everything was in the original, default locations) and asked me if I wanted to remove it (I realize some folks may want to keep the older version around during a transition). Now I have to de-install the old version, and hope I don’t break anything in the process.

]]> By: helterskellter http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html#comment-44332 helterskellter Wed, 23 May 2012 22:17:14 +0000 https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/?p=6762#comment-44332 Is every software company thinking that suddenly they have to have a cloud too? I don’t think I want to have to sign up for another cloud everytime I use apps from a different company, nor do I want to spread all of my data across all sorts of “clouds”. I’m not big on being subscriptioned to death either. Registering with every separate company and filling out a new payment shopping cart isn’t fun, but what displeases me the most is managing all of those passwords, billing cycles, and related info across so many different sources. Maybe I’m not making sense. Anyway, I am glad that I don’t have to do the Adobe Cloud to still use the apps. Thanks for that :)

]]> By: helterskellter http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html#comment-44331 helterskellter Wed, 23 May 2012 22:11:14 +0000 https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/?p=6762#comment-44331 I see the Adobe apps in my iPad App Store, but only Lightroom on my Mac App Store. Did they make it so you have to purchase and download some of them with the downloading manager? Or maybe that is just the extra work necessary to use the trials? How can I pay woth my iTunes credit card billing account? I’ll do some Googling and see if I can’t answer my own questions. Sorry if I sound like an annoying noob :P

[Not annoying; this stuff is a work in progress, and it can be confusing. Most Adobe desktop apps aren't available in the Mac App Store at this time. Lightroom & Photoshop Elements are there, however. --J.]

]]> By: James http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html#comment-44329 James Wed, 23 May 2012 21:18:30 +0000 https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/?p=6762#comment-44329 Two points.

First, this is not exactly 2 steps. You download (1) and install (2) the app manager, then “login to the Cloud” (3) then accept the app manager EULA (4), then select a product to download a file (5), then run the installer for that app, and only then can you launch an app (6).

This shows a process that is certainly greatly improved. But let’s not get all market-y with it.

[I was just trying to make a cute reference to Apple's old iMac commercial. --J.]

Second, what about the login/pass requirement being the same that you log in to your computer with? My company requires that the password be changed every 90 days. How does that affect Adobe App Manager down the road?

[Your Adobe password is unrelated to your computer password. You'll notice that even after you log in with your Adobe password, when you go to actually install apps you'll be prompted to enter your computer password (at least on Mac). --J.]

]]> By: Mark Jenkinson http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html#comment-44326 Mark Jenkinson Wed, 23 May 2012 19:21:52 +0000 https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/?p=6762#comment-44326 There is no “Adobe Application Manager” app in the Applications folder. When you “Check for Updates” from within Photoshop (for example) the Adobe Application Manager launches, but it only allows you to check for updates. There’s no way to install new apps from it.

]]> By: Eric Wilde http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html#comment-44321 Eric Wilde Wed, 23 May 2012 17:43:50 +0000 https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/?p=6762#comment-44321 Launch AAM (Adobe Application Manager) through the /Applications folder in the Finder or the start menu in Windows.

]]> By: Andrew http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html#comment-44320 Andrew Wed, 23 May 2012 17:35:00 +0000 https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/?p=6762#comment-44320 This is a great step forward, but why can’t I uninstall from the App Manager? Why is there an uninstall app for every application? Now my LaunchPad on the Mac has 10+ useless icons added to the screen that I can’t easily turn off.

[Yeah, that's pretty deeply bogus. I've asked whether Apple offers an API that lets developers at least group apps together, but I don't remember getting an answer. I know that various improvements are planned, but I'm not sure when they're due to arrive. --J.]

]]> By: Mark Jenkinson http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html#comment-44318 Mark Jenkinson Wed, 23 May 2012 16:11:13 +0000 https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/?p=6762#comment-44318 To clarify, without having to be logged in to the Creative Cloud website, and the Apps and Services page.

]]> By: Allen Cobb http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html#comment-44317 Allen Cobb Wed, 23 May 2012 16:07:31 +0000 https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/?p=6762#comment-44317 RC’s video is both a good summary of how to do this, and a good example of how explaining something can be more complicated than doing it! I’m reminded of the old Instructional Design exercise: “Explain in writing, how to tie a shoelace.”

Ultimately, the best help is somehow integrated into the process itself, so that just the info you need is presented, just when you need it.

Allen

]]> By: Mark Jenkinson http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/this-is-not-your-fathers-adobe-installer.html#comment-44316 Mark Jenkinson Wed, 23 May 2012 16:06:17 +0000 https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/?p=6762#comment-44316 Agree. Huge Kudos to the Installer Team. One question tho: Once you’ve installed an app, and then quit the App Manager, where do you go to launch the App Manager to install more apps?

[Two options: go to the apps page and click the app you want (which launches the app manager), or go into your Applications folder (on Mac, at least--haven't tried Windows) and launch "Adobe Application Manager." --J.]

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