December 11, 2012

Demo: New Photoshop CS6 features for Creative Cloud subscribers

Julieanne Kost shows off her favorites (cropping improvements, support for Liquify on Smart Objects, improved type styles, and more):

Posted by John Nack at 12:26 PM on December 11, 2012

Comments

  • Bill Iverson — 1:29 PM on December 11, 2012

    I think Adobe just may achieve its somewhat odd goal — to annoy loyal purchasers of many versions of its Photoshop and Lightroom products enough with these “Cloud only” subscription features that they abandon Adobe.

  • Jonathan Hughes — 1:42 PM on December 11, 2012

    On the other hand, they’re making all of their Creative Cloud subscribers very happy.

  • ipod — 2:43 PM on December 11, 2012

    so i pay 3000 euro for the master collection but cloud members get the good stuff.

    well next time i look at P2P networks if i can get it cheaper….

    [No kidding? So having a new option (which we told you about at the time of purchase) somehow diminishes the option you chose? –J.]

    • ipod — 12:46 AM on December 12, 2012

      use your brain jack aud dont be an adobe jerk and you will see why people complain!!!

  • Jeremy Chone — 4:29 PM on December 11, 2012

    rrrr, I am mad. I can understand why Adobe exec and employees think that it is good to force a new purchasing model on their users, but honestly, it is not very cool.

    I guess, I will force to buy the cloud version starting at 6.5, but definitely not a cool way to treat all those “old fashion” loyale customers.

    I am still a photoshop fan, and love these features, just a little less of an Adobe fan (this all thing feels like a AT&T Wireless kind of play).

  • Filip Krygsman — 6:09 PM on December 11, 2012

    Adobe is on a collision course with its customers. They are splitting them into two camps, which from a business point of view is an extremely dangerous thing to do.
    Of course the cloud option is loved by many, however the other half are not interested for whatever reasons, financial or because they prefer the old fashioned way of owning a license.
    To penalise the second half because they don’t like to be bullied into the cloud option is unbelievable dumb, to not treat that second half as valuable customers with the same rights is beyond believe, thank you Adobe. I can’t but shake my head in the stupidity of this.

    • Rick Popham — 7:10 PM on December 11, 2012

      I’ve been pretty outspoken about my disinterest in the “Cloud”, but I don’t think we’ve been bullied yet. I looked on these constant updates more as an incentive to get customers to jump into something new, and they were plainly stated as only available through the “Cloud”.

      Having said that, I do agree that having two classes of customers is not a wise move. Which is why I think Adobe will do everything possible to eliminate one of those classes and abandon the perpetual license. Why else am I getting all these surveys from Adobe asking if I’d subscribe if the “Cloud” was the only way to get the software?

      • Filip Krygsman — 7:36 PM on December 11, 2012

        Thanks Rick, I am the first to admit that Adobe is bullying its customer maybe a bit of a strong word to use, however to use the word incentive is an understatement.
        I agree Adobe will try anything to abandon the perpetual license. This is something that totally baffles me. How can a company of Adobe stature argue or come to the conclusion that one package will suite all their customer, just because it suits Adobe is beyond belief.
        They realise they are creating a huge amount of anxiety among their customers, so for the moment they wont go into pushing the cloud thing to hard, but it seems clear they have very little sympathy for the ones that are not interested.

  • Scott Boucher — 6:35 PM on December 11, 2012

    $600/year just to RENT software? Adobe seems to be out of touch with the marketplace. If anything, mobile devices have gotten people used to paying lower prices for applications, not more. When Apple de-bundled their iWorks Suite for their Mac App Store, they lowered the prices. The only reason I use Aperture instead of Lightroom is because Apple dropped the price to $80. Now, I’m locked into their photo editing universe. If Adobe dropped the price for their products, more people would buy in and be loyal customers. Not many people can afford $600/year.

  • John Stevenson — 8:47 PM on December 11, 2012

    Last time I bought a license for Photoshop it cost me $400, simply to upgrade CS5 to CS6 (Standard). Now I pay $350 over the next 12 months, and I have CS6 Extended, with the interim upgrades, and any or all of the other CS applications (all told). Doesn’t seem such a bad deal to me. (The bigger issue here is that each release seems to contain a less significant bunch of new features and upgrades. With little upfront outreach to the user base for inputs.)

  • Howie — 9:12 PM on December 11, 2012

    Well, i see now that new features are more important than bug fixes even for cloud customers.

    Adobe certainly can’t say now that they fix bugs before adding new features.

    Case closed!

    • Jeffrey Tranberry — 11:59 AM on December 14, 2012

      Howie, bug fixes go our first. 13.0.1, an updated of all bug fixes, was released to *all* customers earlier this year.

  • ipod — 12:48 AM on December 12, 2012

    you can complain as much as you want …jack has his head up adobes ass.

    he will not stopp telling you why you have to love the creative cloud.. and he is way smarter then all of us.. he KNOWS what i good for you!!

  • polyxo — 4:16 AM on December 12, 2012

    I think there’s a hidden mechanism which helps Adobe in establishing their Software-Rental-Service. Customers comfort themselves that if something goes wrong or they can no longer pay the monthly bill that they still can always revert to the previous Disk-versions of the product they have bought.
    That is of course utterly wrong.
    Updating to the “Cloud” invalidates previous licenses. Still I believe that this stone-age instinct helps.
    Otherwise the sound cortex of adults has to avert itself from such a “deal” even if spiffed up
    with some artificially created “benefits”.

    • Filip Krygsman — 5:55 AM on December 12, 2012

      Polyxo you are only partially right. Updating to the cloud does not invalidate your previous licenses. That would be highly illegal, however you are touching a raw nerve here.
      Customers at the moment feel save to sign up to the cloud because they know they can revert to their old licenses when something goes wrong and they are financially unable to keep up the payments. They may loose a Cs6 or Cs7 version when they do, but they will still be able to operate and get their stuff out of the door.
      However by signing up to the cloud now you are putting your destiny in the hands of Adobe. When in 6 or 8 years time Adobe has total control of the cloud system and has abolished licensed versions you will be a slave to whatever they throw at you and that includes price rises.
      It has been my opinion from the start that the cloud system is flawed as it takes away customer choice as you never get to own a license.
      It is my opinion that Adobe intents to take away the license system in the future and make you operate through the clouds only. Even now they are already applying a small amount of pressure by giving updates to cloud members only. To me that is a clear indication they are not going to honour the old license system in the future.
      It is my opinion that Adobe is trying to build a system that suites them first and foremost. It comes from the believe they have a set of apps that are at the top of the chain and yes these apps are great, no doubt… for the moment!
      I am sorry to be so negative about this cloud system. You cannot apply one rule to all your customers. These customers are varied in their needs. Guys you still have choice now, keep it that way.

      • polyxo — 6:43 AM on December 12, 2012

        Oh. I hereby apologize for spreading wrong information! The CC-FAQ indeed states that one may use previously purchased non-cloud products
        alongside with CC-products. That’s not what I had expected – I had thought that you were only able to use the currently activated version (and if that one is inactive due to missing payments that what you had to deal with…).

        My problem with treating customers differently for no objective reasons remains.
        “We can move faster with the cloud” – what sounds logical on the surface clearly isn’t. I’m amazed that such marketing techniques indeed work…

        • John Stevenson — 7:22 AM on December 12, 2012

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          How would what was in the update made available yesterday have been handled under the standard license scheme (other than as a freebie)? How many such updates would there need to be be before you’d have to cough-up $200+ for a CS7 license (and then get what)?

          • polyxo — 8:10 AM on December 12, 2012

            Well. Updates of the extend shown are normal as point-releases in numerous widely used software-products.One could have released this update to everyone who bought licenses, quite the same way as the Retina-Display-Support was made available. Of course Adobe may decide not to give this value away for free or even opt to restrict it to customers of a licensing-scheme they want to feature. What bugs me is the quality of communication. It invents some
            advantage in terms of rolling out throught the “Cloud” which de facto does not exist.

  • flux — 2:07 PM on December 12, 2012

    seriously, people? if you can’t earn back 50 bucks/month by using the entire suite of tools included, you’d be better off getting your gimp on. or whatever “alternatives” for professionals everyone is talking about…

    • flux — 2:10 PM on December 12, 2012

      plus: is it wondering matter adobe pushes a subscription models, if people dare to shake a p2p-fist at adobe bloggers? go, get a job.

  • Herbert — 11:21 AM on December 14, 2012

    I am glad I made the decision to switch to Photoline three months ago.

  • m8 — 2:42 PM on January 06, 2013

    Why don’t you also release these features in a CS 6.5 version, so people have the choice of purchasing these features forever?

    [Because we want you to subscribe. –J.]

    I understand that some people will only use Photoshop for a few months, and so prefer to rent it, but what if you want to own the product and use it forever, or at least use it for as long as you like?

    I don’t have a smartphone for the very reason that I don’t like paying monthly for anything if I can, and now my favorite application and only reason I even have a desktop computer is going the same way.

    You’re giving more to those who rent your software. What if we don’t want to rent it? Why can’t we choose to buy the features?

    It seems like nowadays if you suddenly run out of money for whatever reason, you’re immediately homeless and have no possessions whatsoever.

    And this isn’t about “not earning 50 bucks a month”, it’s about the constant fear or “what if one day I can’t afford it for whatever reason”, even if that day never comes. Add that same feeling to your rent, your internet and phone connection, your subsidised iPad and smartphone, your car that you bought on credit, etc… and you have a whole life that you’re renting. No wonder people are so stressed about everything nowadays, since every month there’s a chance you’ll lose everything you used to “own”.

    • ProDesignTools — 7:05 AM on January 07, 2013

      @m8
      Well actually Adobe has already said in several places that new features like these would be available in the next perpetual release (whatever it’s called and whenever it comes), just that the Cloud route can get early access.

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