Comments on: Demo: New Photoshop CS6 features for Creative Cloud subscribers

By: ProDesignTools

ProDesignTools — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:05:30 +0000

@m8
Well actually Adobe has already said in several places that new features like these would be available in the next perpetual release (whatever it’s called and whenever it comes), just that the Cloud route can get early access.

By: m8

m8 — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:42:38 +0000

Why don’t you also release these features in a CS 6.5 version, so people have the choice of purchasing these features forever?

[Because we want you to subscribe. --J.]

I understand that some people will only use Photoshop for a few months, and so prefer to rent it, but what if you want to own the product and use it forever, or at least use it for as long as you like?

I don’t have a smartphone for the very reason that I don’t like paying monthly for anything if I can, and now my favorite application and only reason I even have a desktop computer is going the same way.

You’re giving more to those who rent your software. What if we don’t want to rent it? Why can’t we choose to buy the features?

It seems like nowadays if you suddenly run out of money for whatever reason, you’re immediately homeless and have no possessions whatsoever.

And this isn’t about “not earning 50 bucks a month”, it’s about the constant fear or “what if one day I can’t afford it for whatever reason”, even if that day never comes. Add that same feeling to your rent, your internet and phone connection, your subsidised iPad and smartphone, your car that you bought on credit, etc… and you have a whole life that you’re renting. No wonder people are so stressed about everything nowadays, since every month there’s a chance you’ll lose everything you used to “own”.

By: ProDesignTools

ProDesignTools — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:30:47 +0000

Well, there’s actually a bit more to it than that

http://prodesigntools.com/why-creative-cloud-gets-exclusive-features.html

By: Jeffrey Tranberry

Jeffrey Tranberry — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:59:35 +0000

Howie, bug fixes go our first. 13.0.1, an updated of all bug fixes, was released to *all* customers earlier this year.

By: Herbert

Herbert — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:21:38 +0000

I am glad I made the decision to switch to Photoline three months ago.

By: laden.m

laden.m — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:44:04 +0000

why, the CC subscribers should be happy??? because the other customers are screwed, or what?

By: flux

flux — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:10:45 +0000

plus: is it wondering matter adobe pushes a subscription models, if people dare to shake a p2p-fist at adobe bloggers? go, get a job.

By: flux

flux — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:07:51 +0000

seriously, people? if you can’t earn back 50 bucks/month by using the entire suite of tools included, you’d be better off getting your gimp on. or whatever “alternatives” for professionals everyone is talking about…

By: polyxo

polyxo — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:10:23 +0000

Well. Updates of the extend shown are normal as point-releases in numerous widely used software-products.One could have released this update to everyone who bought licenses, quite the same way as the Retina-Display-Support was made available. Of course Adobe may decide not to give this value away for free or even opt to restrict it to customers of a licensing-scheme they want to feature. What bugs me is the quality of communication. It invents some
advantage in terms of rolling out throught the “Cloud” which de facto does not exist.

By: John Stevenson

John Stevenson — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:22:06 +0000

How would what was in the update made available yesterday have been handled under the standard license scheme (other than as a freebie)? How many such updates would there need to be be before you’d have to cough-up $200+ for a CS7 license (and then get what)?

By: polyxo

polyxo — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:43:52 +0000

Oh. I hereby apologize for spreading wrong information! The CC-FAQ indeed states that one may use previously purchased non-cloud products
alongside with CC-products. That’s not what I had expected – I had thought that you were only able to use the currently activated version (and if that one is inactive due to missing payments that what you had to deal with…).

My problem with treating customers differently for no objective reasons remains.
“We can move faster with the cloud” – what sounds logical on the surface clearly isn’t. I’m amazed that such marketing techniques indeed work…

By: Filip Krygsman

Filip Krygsman — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:46 +0000

Polyxo you are only partially right. Updating to the cloud does not invalidate your previous licenses. That would be highly illegal, however you are touching a raw nerve here.
Customers at the moment feel save to sign up to the cloud because they know they can revert to their old licenses when something goes wrong and they are financially unable to keep up the payments. They may loose a Cs6 or Cs7 version when they do, but they will still be able to operate and get their stuff out of the door.
However by signing up to the cloud now you are putting your destiny in the hands of Adobe. When in 6 or 8 years time Adobe has total control of the cloud system and has abolished licensed versions you will be a slave to whatever they throw at you and that includes price rises.
It has been my opinion from the start that the cloud system is flawed as it takes away customer choice as you never get to own a license.
It is my opinion that Adobe intents to take away the license system in the future and make you operate through the clouds only. Even now they are already applying a small amount of pressure by giving updates to cloud members only. To me that is a clear indication they are not going to honour the old license system in the future.
It is my opinion that Adobe is trying to build a system that suites them first and foremost. It comes from the believe they have a set of apps that are at the top of the chain and yes these apps are great, no doubt… for the moment!
I am sorry to be so negative about this cloud system. You cannot apply one rule to all your customers. These customers are varied in their needs. Guys you still have choice now, keep it that way.

By: polyxo

polyxo — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:16:59 +0000

I think there’s a hidden mechanism which helps Adobe in establishing their Software-Rental-Service. Customers comfort themselves that if something goes wrong or they can no longer pay the monthly bill that they still can always revert to the previous Disk-versions of the product they have bought.
That is of course utterly wrong.
Updating to the “Cloud” invalidates previous licenses. Still I believe that this stone-age instinct helps.
Otherwise the sound cortex of adults has to avert itself from such a “deal” even if spiffed up
with some artificially created “benefits”.

By: ipod

ipod — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:48:47 +0000

you can complain as much as you want …jack has his head up adobes ass.

he will not stopp telling you why you have to love the creative cloud.. and he is way smarter then all of us.. he KNOWS what i good for you!!

By: ipod

ipod — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:46:20 +0000

use your brain jack aud dont be an adobe jerk and you will see why people complain!!!