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	<title>Comments on: Wow! Adobe &amp; Behance are getting together</title>
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		<title>By: Allen Cobb</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/12/wow-adobe-behance-are-getting-together.html#comment-55300</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 07:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My only worry about the Cloud is what happens if, for some period of time (perhaps a year or more?), I just can&#039;t afford to continue the monthly payments. With a perpetual license, it means only that I can&#039;t upgrade for a while, perhaps missing a version. But with the Cloud version, I would be suddenly left without any Suite tools at all. This is more than a little frightening. I&#039;ve spent many thousands on the Master Collection license, but if I pay into the Cloud the equivalent of another perpetual license upgrade, failure to *keep paying* means I&#039;m dead in the water. If there were some kind of fallback option I&#039;d be a lot more comfortable about switching from license to rental.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only worry about the Cloud is what happens if, for some period of time (perhaps a year or more?), I just can&#8217;t afford to continue the monthly payments. With a perpetual license, it means only that I can&#8217;t upgrade for a while, perhaps missing a version. But with the Cloud version, I would be suddenly left without any Suite tools at all. This is more than a little frightening. I&#8217;ve spent many thousands on the Master Collection license, but if I pay into the Cloud the equivalent of another perpetual license upgrade, failure to *keep paying* means I&#8217;m dead in the water. If there were some kind of fallback option I&#8217;d be a lot more comfortable about switching from license to rental.</p>
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		<title>By: NoNoob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/12/wow-adobe-behance-are-getting-together.html#comment-55014</link>
		<dc:creator>NoNoob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 22:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as if jack would pay for it... 

PR guys.. lying is half of the job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as if jack would pay for it&#8230; </p>
<p>PR guys.. lying is half of the job.</p>
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		<title>By: NoNoob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/12/wow-adobe-behance-are-getting-together.html#comment-55013</link>
		<dc:creator>NoNoob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 22:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well you don´t get much work done .. otherwise you would fix some major bugs.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well you don´t get much work done .. otherwise you would fix some major bugs&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Broom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/12/wow-adobe-behance-are-getting-together.html#comment-54932</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Broom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remain deeply suspicious of Adobe&#039;s motives.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remain deeply suspicious of Adobe&#8217;s motives&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Popham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/12/wow-adobe-behance-are-getting-together.html#comment-54884</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Popham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is pretty much the way I feel about the &quot;Cloud&quot;, with the key phrase being:

&quot;The availability of a rental plan does no harm to users of the traditional “permanent” purchase, so long as Adobe makes both types of purchase available.&quot;

Based on the questions in a couple of &quot;Creative Cloud&quot; surveys I received recently, I think Adobe is intent on eliminating the traditional licenses.  Rather than eliminate them outright, I think they&#039;ll make the traditional upgrade more onerous by either raising the price or making them more frequent, or both.

They&#039;ll probably gather all these &quot;Cloud&quot; features together next spring, call it CS 6.5, say that it&#039;s a full version, and require us to upgrade to stay current.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty much the way I feel about the &#8220;Cloud&#8221;, with the key phrase being:</p>
<p>&#8220;The availability of a rental plan does no harm to users of the traditional “permanent” purchase, so long as Adobe makes both types of purchase available.&#8221;</p>
<p>Based on the questions in a couple of &#8220;Creative Cloud&#8221; surveys I received recently, I think Adobe is intent on eliminating the traditional licenses.  Rather than eliminate them outright, I think they&#8217;ll make the traditional upgrade more onerous by either raising the price or making them more frequent, or both.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll probably gather all these &#8220;Cloud&#8221; features together next spring, call it CS 6.5, say that it&#8217;s a full version, and require us to upgrade to stay current.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry John, it sounds like a lot of marketing bollox to me.

&lt;i&gt;[The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I&#039;m grabbing a spoon.  --J.]&lt;/i&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry John, it sounds like a lot of marketing bollox to me.</p>
<p><i>[The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I'm grabbing a spoon.  --J.]</i> </p>
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		<title>By: John Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/12/wow-adobe-behance-are-getting-together.html#comment-54869</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a retiree, who is an almost daily but amateur user of Photoshop, Dreamweaver and Acrobat, neither Behance nor renting software under the Cloud plan are of interest to me. Nonetheless, I am glad to see Adobe offering them.

Monthly stream revenues have obvious benefits to Adobe in that they help to level revenues and make the Company less susceptible to sudden financial difficulty if a new release is not popular (as happened with Ashton-Tate, Borland, and many software vendors). Financial stability benefits users who want the products to continue to thrive with the addition of new features that allow us to do more in less time.

The availability of rental plans also benefits many users directly, allowing them to level expenses rather than face sudden large outlays every time a new version becomes available. It also allows large design studios to scale up and down the number of copies they are paying for as workflows grow and recede.

The availability of a rental plan does no harm to users of the traditional &quot;permanent&quot; purchase, so long as Adobe makes both types of purchase available.

I&#039;m also amazed at people who complain that Adobe brings out new versions &quot;too often.&quot; It&#039;s a choice. You buy the new version if the new features will benefit you enough to justify the cost of upgrading. If not, you continue using your old version.

I guess it&#039;s part of the new selfishness that seems to be rampant: &quot;If I can&#039;t have it, I don&#039;t want anyone else to have it either.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a retiree, who is an almost daily but amateur user of Photoshop, Dreamweaver and Acrobat, neither Behance nor renting software under the Cloud plan are of interest to me. Nonetheless, I am glad to see Adobe offering them.</p>
<p>Monthly stream revenues have obvious benefits to Adobe in that they help to level revenues and make the Company less susceptible to sudden financial difficulty if a new release is not popular (as happened with Ashton-Tate, Borland, and many software vendors). Financial stability benefits users who want the products to continue to thrive with the addition of new features that allow us to do more in less time.</p>
<p>The availability of rental plans also benefits many users directly, allowing them to level expenses rather than face sudden large outlays every time a new version becomes available. It also allows large design studios to scale up and down the number of copies they are paying for as workflows grow and recede.</p>
<p>The availability of a rental plan does no harm to users of the traditional &#8220;permanent&#8221; purchase, so long as Adobe makes both types of purchase available.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also amazed at people who complain that Adobe brings out new versions &#8220;too often.&#8221; It&#8217;s a choice. You buy the new version if the new features will benefit you enough to justify the cost of upgrading. If not, you continue using your old version.</p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s part of the new selfishness that seems to be rampant: &#8220;If I can&#8217;t have it, I don&#8217;t want anyone else to have it either.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: NoNoob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/12/wow-adobe-behance-are-getting-together.html#comment-54831</link>
		<dc:creator>NoNoob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the cloud bubble........ the next new thing to screw the average joe noob.

&lt;i&gt;[How do we ever get any work done, what with our hands occupied twiddling our villainous mustaches?  --J.]&lt;/i&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the cloud bubble&#8230;&#8230;.. the next new thing to screw the average joe noob.</p>
<p><i>[How do we ever get any work done, what with our hands occupied twiddling our villainous mustaches?  --J.]</i> </p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/12/wow-adobe-behance-are-getting-together.html#comment-54812</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah yes, export.  I would be nice if PS could do it: strip out flatten, alpha channels, color samplers, metadata, and on and on.
I keep asking but...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, export.  I would be nice if PS could do it: strip out flatten, alpha channels, color samplers, metadata, and on and on.<br />
I keep asking but&#8230;</p>
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