Penguin.SWF

:-)

Mike, please, please tell us this is actually true and not a hoax / prank / joke / misunderstanding / misinterpretation?

It would *really* make my day :)

That is a great news !!!

Let me guess... He was using a version of gnash or Swfdec.

It doesn't mean much until we get our hands on this lil' critter.
BTW, you must not be ashamed to confess you were aware of Tinic's musings. :) Just save us from the hard work of travelling halfworld to SanFran just to stalk, ambush him and steal his notebook. Even the russian secret service is craving for Flash64, so be afraid, VERY afraid of strange dudes wandering around with 8"FDD with USB adapters.
Now, back to the "real" reality, it is long overdue. There's a hearsay that Duke Nuken Forever will run with Flash64 as its platform, and 3D Realms' delay about releasing the game is due to Adobe not honoring its part in the agreement. Now please be a good guy and help us to play DNF: release Flash64 now.

Thanks in advance.

Is there any solid plans/release dates for a 64 bit version though.

Basically - Is there any official word from Adobe?

"Is there any solid plans/release dates for a 64 bit version though.

Basically - Is there any official word from Adobe?"

i think it will be ready just a couple of days after Silverlight pervade the web

Can someone please explain what the deal is on Linux with the .macromedia folder and subfolder?

Here's what I've found: Eventually, whether it's version 9 (or 10 beta/rc) the browser will suddenly start crashing randomly when watching YouTube videos. After awhile this will be constant, and I'll go and delete the files and subfolders in .macromedia in the user's home directory after closing Firefox3, and restart FF3 and suddenly the crashes stop, for awhile. When they begin again I delete the contents of .macromedia and it's stable for awhile. Sometimes this doesn't resolve crashes but most of the time it does, usually only for a few hours.

So what effect is this having by deleting the .macromedia folder contents, and is there any way you could implement some type of button to clear the .macromedia folder quickly and easily so I don't have to go into .macromedia and do it myself at the command line every time? I know you can remove content from within the Flash Player Control Panel type of thing, I've done that but it still leaves behind stuff in .macromedia, which is why I end up manually deleting those files.

orlando,
the .macromedia and the other are the files you need to delete in case you are viewing porn and dont want your wife to find out.

The crashes are simply due to the fact that flash sucks...

Adobe thinks that they somehow have a national secret when in fact what they have is a piece of #%*?.

Sounds like backstabbing, to me.
Another way to stuff Tinic's egomaniacal blog? :)
A blatant demo of brilliant internal technical management at Adobe? Yet another question for the next meeting of the "Who's in charge of the Linux stuff" Department?

Anyway, latest version is just perfect for me (oh well the lil libs quirks will be solved).

Flash 9 crashes for me no matter what browser I use

Flash 10 betas and rc crash for me no matter what browser I use

I'm trying every version and beta hoping for things to change, but IMO, they aren't, the crashes continue.

I'll continue to try new versions just as I have in the past, but this crashing is really getting old.

Hey Sandog, GNASH/SWFDEC is too feeble for anything useful on Linux.

Ok, it's prime for release. Ship it. We have been waiting for 64-bit Flash plugins for a few years now. In fact I have not seen Flash content because of that. (Never liked the nspluginwrapper's crashiness, and swfdec/gnash plain suck)

@sandog:
"Anyway, latest version is just perfect for me"

Perhaps you should visit some of the sites I have, where the flash content in 10rc shows up as a bunch of flashing white boxes and clearly does not work at all. IMO 10rc is not ready for release, it still has some work to be done to it before it's released.

Aside from the joke above about adult material, what is the .macromedia subdirectory for and why does manually clearing it usually solve all crashes for a few hours until it is cleared again?

"Ok, it's prime for release. Ship it."

Apparently it's not, IMO, when it still crashes for me and many others over and over again, and when some sites' flash still display oddities like white blobs all over the Flash moving and fading, skipping video, etc. even version 9 crashes a lot for me, sometimes constantly, but it doesn't display strange white moving blobs all over the screen.

The 'freeze after two seconds' bug is pretty popular now adays (I have it on two of my computers with different distributions and everything!) Where do we file bugs for this blob?

[ What version of the Flash Player are you using? I haven't heard of that bug forever. -Mike M. ]

Wow, Adobe recognizes 64-bit support and almost everybody is quiet? Yet when any other blog is posted, everyone whines about the lack of 64-bit...so why isn't everyone saying something _POSITIVE_ now that a 64-bit flash player seems imminent?

These whiners sicken me...no wonder why Adobe's dragged their feet on this. I know I wouldn't want to cater to a bunch of babies who can do nothing but whine and never offer any positive feedback...

Information dumped right from my about:plugins:

Shockwave Flash

File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 10.0.0 d525

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes
application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes

BTW- Let me mention this isn't an nspluginwrapper issue, I have a ubuntu box that does the same exact thing. Most of the time when I restart my browser it stops, with the ubuntu machine it doesn't :(.

tonglebeak,

Adobe has shown nothing. They claim to have been working on 64 bit for years, and still ... NOTHING!. That not whining. Its a fact. Shut up and have a nice life.

Avuton: Hah, I saw that on my brother's Window XP machine the other day. Kwality.

@tonglebeak:
"These whiners sicken me...no wonder why Adobe's dragged their feet on this. I know I wouldn't want to cater to a bunch of babies who can do nothing but whine and never offer any positive feedback..."

Are we looking for positive *feedback*, which IMO includes constructive criticism, or are we looking for blind adoration?

Both Flash 9 and Flash 10 betas and rc continue to crash for me, often constantly, bringing down the whole browser and all of the tabs with it. Sure, I can restore the sites I had loaded, but often when they have been restored with a browser relaunch, the whole thing crashes AGAIN.

I've counted over a dozen crashes in under five minutes, there is no reason any program, IMO, should crash this frequently, and for this long through many versions. I can't see the source, and "requesting that the code be open sourced will be considered off-topic" according to the blog here, so what can we do? Continue to watch another version bring down my browser again and again and I should sing a wonderful tune of praise for this?

I think not

"Are we looking for positive *feedback*, which IMO includes constructive criticism, or are we looking for blind adoration?"

Positive feedback of course. My post was directed towards the "OMG STILL NO 64-BITS!?! BURN ADOBE BURN!!!!!!" Of COURSE constructive criticism should be given; that's the only way a (closed source) product will get better. Constructive criticism is a lot more motivating then whining...

There's a difference between a working 64-bit native flash player and one that has the same performance as on Windows for example.

Are there any plans to sort out the performance issues with Flash under Linux?

Mike,

It's time for a new release. The current release runs sluggish, slow, or crashes with WMODE enabled. Just get this problem fixed. Then I can start complaining about 64 bit.

@All those who say you can crash Player 10 every single time:
Go log a bug in the public bug tracker, rather than sitting there just moaning about it.

What is the most stable version for Firefox 3.0.1 ever since I upgraded to Ubuntu Hardy every flash version I have tried including the Flash 10 RC has randomly and frequently crashed Firefox. Is Adobe even trying to fix the stability problems with FF3? It's gotten to the point were I have to block all flash and only enable it when I absolutely need to use it. This does not seem like progress. Please fix these issue in version 10. We don't need or want another unstable release version. Also, can adobe please tell flash web developers to please stop blocking future versions of flash. I can't tell you how many sites I've seen that block version 10 because they "Require Flash 8 or above".

I've switched to the Seamonkey browser when using Flash 9 and 10, it doesn't seem to crash much or at all with Flash whereas in my experiences Firefox 2 and 3 did all of the time. Seamonkey is worth trying if you're disgusted with the crashes.

Yeah, 64-bit flash on Linux would be great!

So far, the solution that works best for me is the following: I have a 64-bit Debian stable as my main desktop environment, with one exception: a 32-bit firefox running in a chroot'ed install of 32-bit Debian stable. Moderately hard to setup, but works rather well, except for a few sites (no problem with these on Windows), but I guess it wouldn't be different on a full 32-bit Linux desktop.

Also some optimization wouldn't hurt, CPU usage seems to me excessive at times.

Interesting you said about this - I'm not 100% what the random bit is though?

Thanks,
dan-roe@hotmail.co.uk

This does not seem like progress. Please fix these issue in version 10. We don't need or want another unstable release version

Moderately hard to setup, but works rather well, except for a few sites (no problem with these on Windows), but I guess it wouldn't be different on a full 32-bit Linux desktop.

Oh good, 64 bit flash. But, hang on, I can have it for Solaris on Sparc (or x86) and for Linux on x86_64, but ... no mention of Linux on Sparc. More years to wait ? It can't be that much extra work to build for Linux on Sparc 64 surely ?

Does anyone know of anyway, to contact the corporate office? Adobe has forced me into bankruptcy, and had me kicked out of school for lack of support and activtion issues, even the CEO's name so that I can tell the attorney general his name