H dot two sixty four

There is a new beta of the Flash Player Update available. That’s right: the beta is even available for Linux (same time as Windows and Mac). Download it here.

This beta is affectionately named Moviestar due to these key new features:

  • H.264 video
  • AAC audio
  • Hardware-accelerated fullscreen video playback (new for Linux in this beta; Win/Mac had it in previous beta)

Yep– fullscreen hardware acceleration during video playback using OpenGL/GLX on Linux, where available… and functional. If you find that it does not work right, you can disable hardware acceleration using the “Settings…” menu from the right-click context menu. Oh, and file a bug with hardware details, video card driver version, GLX version, that sort of stuff.

If you have any questions about the new audio/video stuff, check Tinic’s thorough blog post on the matter.

I would also like to hear if anyone is still experiencing the click bug (where no events are triggered in response to mouse clicks).

88 Responses to H dot two sixty four

  1. cartman says:

    Congratulations to you all, now we can use ffmpeg to generate Flash video 😉

  2. Paulo Dias says:

    Me still has the same problems with flash + firefox + compiz fusion, flash doesn’t accept any left mouse click events. Well, if i do a right click, move the mouse over the menu, and then quickly click the left mouse button, i have a good chance it works, but not always. a pitty, since besides that annoying bug, it appears to work as advertised. If you have some sort of workaround, pelase post it here or send me an email.best regards

  3. Your “Download it here” link doesn’t work. 😉 [ How embarrassing. Fixed now; thanks for the notice. -Mike M. ]

  4. kriko says:

    Thank you! When I first saw news about new beta and hw acelleration I thought it would take ages to get this functionality in linux too. You really surprised me.Btw, link “Download it here” is broken, remove last / [ Got it; thanks. -Mike M. ]

  5. Rob H. says:

    Thanks for making the update available for Linux!

  6. Thales says:

    With Ubuntu 7.04, Firefox 2.0.0.4 and Compiz Fusion, left click events doesn’t work.Beside this, pretty good to see Linux side-by-side with Windows and Mac. Good work! 😉

  7. Zak says:

    Alas, STILL no WMODE support. *sigh* I guess we’ll wait another year and a half. 🙁

  8. Lars T. Mikkelsen says:

    Mike, great work! The H.264 support is highly appreciated. Unfortunately, the click bug is still there. Paulo’s workaround works – right clicking to bring up the menu and then double clicking. This is on Gentoo Linux 2007.0 using Firefox 2.0.0.6 and I’m not running Compiz Fusion as Paulo.

  9. Eythian says:

    It doesn’t work here. I’m using nspluginwrapper to run it on x86_64. The player loads, and I get sound, however there is no UI component. Right-clicking where it should be doesn’t present the standard flash menu. Rolling back to the official release version (and telling nspluginwrapper about the change) makes things start working again.

  10. A German Anonymous says:

    hi,thanks for this beta and your linux efforts.but i have to report a few things that don’t work:1) clicking with LMB still does not work (except in GTK context menu). BUT holding RMB or MMB down and clicking with LMB work like it should.mouse wheel works.2) german umlauts not shown on LANG=de_DE.utf8Pango moans: “Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()”3) with or without HW-accel videos at comedycentral.com/motherload/ are out of sync, as video is played back slowly or syncing around weirdsome useful infos about my setup:gentoo linux, gcc 4.2.0, kernel 2.6.22, glibc 2.6.1, xorg 7.2, fluxbox svn4983, firefox 2.0.0.6, gtk+ 2.10.14, nvidia-drivers 100.14.11, GeForce FX Go5200

  11. chodo says:

    Don’t see anything like Hardware acceleration…

  12. Click bug here. Ubuntu 7.04, FF 2.0.0.6, NVIDIA 9631 driver

  13. Chris Lord says:

    As in the previous Linux beta, this doesn’t work correctly with multiple screens. It full-screens on the correct monitor, but the image appears in the centre of the monitors with borders along the side (so if you have 2 monitors, for example, you only see half the image).Also, it often crashes the browser when accessing the settings, or halts the browser when browsing away from pages containing flash (the latter also happens in the released plug-in).Otherwise, good stuff, it’s a lot faster than the released version 🙂

  14. chutz says:

    I am still getting the no click event problem. It seems that right-clicks go through fine, and I see the menu no problem, but left clicks don’t work at all. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.6 and nspluginwrapper on x86_64.

  15. Anonymous says:

    You are my hero.

  16. Jason says:

    Looks good to me. I can now use the right click menu and get into settings without crashing.Full screen seems to be going ok with acceleration. Good stuff.One thing I am curious about though is “Javascript menus are covered by SWF” progress. I’m using Firefox 3.0a7 which lists fixes for it but say plugin changes and needed to support it. I believe changes going into the beta plugin were in part to move towards supporting it as well but was waiting on browser support… However it’s still not fixed for me despite changes on both sides. So what is the status now? I don’t want to nag – I know it’s a lot of work, I’m just curious as to where things are at and whats required to finish it off.

  17. Michael says:

    First off, thanks for the updates, even if you can’t make the player OSS. However, is there any hope on seeing a 64-bit version of the player any time soon? I don’t think you can buy a non-64-bit CPU from a major OEM any more. (Dell, HP, etc.) 64-bit is needing some love.

  18. There is still no real bug tracker, right? (Something where I can track the status of my reported bugs.)

  19. Chester says:

    Doesn’t work in opera 9.22

  20. cromo says:

    Why is the hardware acceleration only in fullscreen mode? I’d love to see flash being accelerated whenever possible.

  21. Zbigniew L. says:

    I appreciate OpenGL/GLX acceleration in Linux. Works very well on my Geforce 6150 (driver 100.14.11) However when I compare the same video clip playback in flash plugin and mplayer or xine the difference in CPU use is very big. On Athlon64 3000+ for the same clip the results are (measured using top command):mplayer (or xine) firefox plugin using X-Video output: 3-5%flash plugin 9.0.(playback from disk): 50-55%The difference is in flash code as xine, mplayer, flash are all firefox plugins and use same browser and same programming interface.In bug report I will provide more details.I find OpenGL/GLX acceleration as step in right direction. It is visually faster and more fluent than software rendering but will not win in performance/CPU usage as X-Video extension is better optimized and have video capabilities which OpenGL lacks. However with more powerful 3D GPUs development on the market the difference will go smaller.

  22. Zbigniew L. says:

    Konqueror does not work with this version of flash plugin. However KDE developers are talking about making support for it.

  23. Luciano says:

    Thanks!But still missing the most important thing: 64-bits support!!Any news about this?Thanks again.

  24. pxn7 says:

    64bit request here, and fix LMB click too

  25. i want a 64bit version, please

  26. Great stuff, there’s a reason why Flash was more readily accepted as opposed to Java!

  27. Peter G says:

    I’d really appreciate if you guys would try to this plugin in Opera…This version is totally broken.Or at least say that “this ain’t working with Opera”.Release notes mentioned this:Opera and Netscape do not allow recursive calls using the ExternalInterface API into the Flash Player. This issue has been reported to Opera and Netscape. (184777)But I doubt that this is the reason why nothing is working at all…

  28. japc says:

    Great!!Now seriously, this doesn’t even work with latest opera (9.22) or konqueror 3.5.7-6.[sarcastic]What browser do you recommend?[/sarcastic]I’ll for the non-beta, something that works or nothing.

  29. Cláudio Pinheiro says:

    I’m singing the 64bit mantra until it happens…Of course I can run a 32bit plugin in a 64bit system using nspluginwrapper, and we all know the 64bit version will appear sooner or later, but please update the status once in a while. The last time you _mentioned_ a 64bit effort was in October 21th 2006, and every subsequent comment asking for it was simply ignored.3D Realms talk about Duke Nukem Forever more frequently than Adobe talks about the 64bit version of the Flash plugin…

  30. gni says:

    briliant, wiiiitnx

  31. fak3r says:

    Thank you, thank you thank you. I can’t believe how smooth Flash is in Linux now, and the fact that it is (and now will) keep up with the Win/Mac world is awesome. Makes thin clients running Linux for my kids make all the more practical!

  32. Giovanni says:

    I’ve tried the last version of the plugin and I’m still experiencing the click bug with Compiz Fusion and Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20061201 Firefox/2.0.0.6 (Ubuntu-feisty).

  33. Dawid H. says:

    In opera 9.23 neither :/ Only “the grey” I see.

  34. Anonymous says:

    release a 64bit version or die 😛

  35. lmf says:

    Any chance of communicating these features to the users of Flash? Idiot MS fanbois like those at abc.com block Linux users, presumably because they don’t know it will work. This type of thing hurts Flash, because it means Flash is not cross-platform.

  36. Alessandro Pentori says:

    End of 2007 and no 64 bit release yet.That’s incredible.Please open source it if you are unable to program. [ 2007 is at an end already? I didn’t even get any Christmas presents! -Mike M. ]

  37. Anonymous says:

    No Hardware Acceleration for me :'( . Fullscreen videos lags, like 2 fps :s. Debian Etch, KDE, Firefox 2.0.0.6, nVIDIA 6200 (nvidia.com drivers installed).

  38. joe says:

    Clickability testing results:32-bit x86 machine, running metacity as window manager with sloppy focus and click_to_raise disabled: worksamd64 machine (through nspluginwrapper), running metacity as window manager with sloppy focus and click_to_raise disabled: doesn’t work (shift-click works)amd64 machine (through nspluginwrapper), running metacity as window manager with sloppy focus and click_to_raise enabled: doesn’t work (shift-click works)amd64 machine (through nspluginwrapper), running metacity as window manager with click to focus and click_to_raise disabled: doesn’t work (shift-click works)amd64 machine (through nspluginwrapper), running metacity as window manager with click to focus and click_to_raise enabled: works

  39. slushpupie says:

    Any ETA on a Linux x86_64 version?

  40. sjb says:

    No response to left clicks here. Also, clicking OK on a save dialogue crashes the browser(!).Linux dell 2.6.18.2-34-default #1 SMP Mon Nov 27 11:46:27 UTC 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/LinuxMozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061023 SUSE/2.0-30 Firefox/2.0Beryl / Emerald

  41. Dan says:

    Click bug confirmed on Firefox 2.0.0.6 x86_64 (with nspluginwrapper)

  42. Michael Rockwell says:

    WRU PPC LINUX FLASH.With over 6 million PS3’s world wide, and at least 15 % of those running Some form of Linux.Added to the masses of people who use linux on PPC systems.It’s time we get a PPC linux distro.

  43. Treviño says:

    I’ve tested this beta under Ubuntu feisty but I got some problems:- It doesn’t work in konqueror (is this due to the new interface?)- Youtube controls don’t work at all, so I can’t neither test the fullscreen- The preferences can’t be set (exactly like the youtube controls)- The right-menu has some localized values with wrong char (chars like “àèéùì” shows as “?”).

  44. oyvinst says:

    Tried it for a (short) while in Ubuntu 7.04 w/Firefox 2.0.0.6 (x86). It appears to be faster than the released stable version. However, it’s killing browser stability, and Firefox hangs and crashes more frequently than with 9.0 r48.Getting much better, but stability needs to improve. But hey, it’s a beta, after all. Nice with all the new features, looking forward to a more stable release.

  45. kriko says:

    @Chester: Nor in opera 9.23. However opera is working on this, I think there should be some improvements in kestrel already (9.5 beta).

  46. César Izurieta says:

    Same stuff, here. Click bug, and special characters show as “?”. It would be really nice to have a bug tracking system here where we can post bugs.—openSUSE 10.2, xorg 7.3, gnome 2.18, Firefox 2.0.0.5, compiz-fusion

  47. Chester says:

    @kriko: I couldn’t find any thread on the opera forums about them working on it. Do you know of any?

  48. Lars T. Mikkelsen says:

    This is a follow up to joe’s comment on the click bug. I’m running 32-bit x86, Firefox 2.0.0.6 and Metacity 2.18.5. In my case, changing the focus_mode from sloppy to click (deselecting “Select windows when the mouse moves over them” in Window Preferences) fixes the problem. Regardless of the focus_mode shift-click works too.

  49. nikt says:

    Youtube controls don’t work at all —– ME TOO- don’t work : play,stop, rewinding, turning down, the volume, Etc.The animation is working, but The mouse is ignoring(controls).P.S I have the Firefox 2.0.0.6 browser.

  50. Brian says:

    I’d appriciate if you would make Flash Player work in Opera.

  51. Robert says:

    Click bug on fedora 7/FF 2.0.0.6 + compiz-fusion. The right clicking fix mentioned above works though.

  52. Zedman says:

    No hardware acceleration here. Actually, performance during video playback seems worse than before.Linux mybox 2.6.18.8-0.5-default #1 SMP Fri Jun 22 12:17:53 UTC 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/LinuxNVidia Geforce 6200, driver version 100.14.09So, what are the prerequisites for hardware accelerated video playback, exactly?

  53. Alex Lowe says:

    Just for interest, are you planning on adding any other codecs to Flash? Or an API that people can attach their own codecs to flash? [ There is an API for doing this, or a language, rather. It’s called ActionScript. -Mike M. ]

  54. Andrig says:

    I have installed this on RHEL 5, and Firefox 1.5.0.12, and video is way out of sync with audio. The audio is great, but all videos play slowly, and then start playing very quickly once the audio track is complete. I have an NVidia Geforce 6200 AGP (4x) card with 256MB of memory running the NVidia proprietary driver, version 100.14.11.Thanks for all the hard work on this. It’s really appreciated.

  55. Johnny says:

    Congratulations on another release!I have to ask though. Ever since before the first v9 beta was released I’ve been waiting for WMODE support. Since the browser has finally been fixed to support it, I have to ask: is there any progress on this?Thank you and congratulations again.

  56. Why don’t you make the Flash system use GStreamer or some other extensible backend to support Audio and Video output?

  57. Ryan says:

    I didn’t have any problems clicking before, but can’t click a thing with the new beta. Also, please, fix that bug that causes the browser to lock up. I’m sick of having to kill firefox and restart it because of this problem with the flash player.

  58. Scott says:

    I also have click problems only when in sloppy focus mode. Fedora 7, Metacity 2.18.5, FF 2.0.0.5. However even when using sloppy focus the graphics for a button work as expected–prelight with mouse over, pressed image/shading when button is clicked. Just no action. Tabbing between widgets works, and space does run the action. Shift-LMB also works.

  59. BJ McCormick says:

    I also get the click bug, which I never had before and don’t have after switching back to an older version. I wish I could check the click to raise stuff in compiz, but the settings manager is broken ATM…I also want to vote to kill that bug that locks up firefox when leaving a flash site. It’s boo.Keep up the good work,.

  60. Richard Fletcher says:

    HiThanks for doing the linux version at the same time. Much appreciated!

  61. Jason says:

    I’m still having left mouse click issues as well. I’m running fedora 7, swiftfox 2.0.0.6, and beryl 0.2.1

  62. Jim says:

    64-bit version please. nspluginwrapper does not appear to support the latest beta. Almost anything except a few ads and YouTube videos will partially load then nspluginwrapper will fail and the animation will fail and turn gray. nsplugin is not a good solution for newest version. Require 64-bit plugin.

  63. GNU/Linux says:

    Yup, 64bit version would be awesome. However I’m extremely happy to see that you released this version for all three main platforms.

  64. Bernard says:

    Looks like some nice new features, but unfortunately I had to regress back to the older version:I hadn’t had the left click bug with the older version, but it surfaced with this version.It crashed my browser (Firefox 2.0.0.6, Debian Etch) first time I used it.If I right clicked and brought up the settings menu, I couldn’t make it go away (a result of the left click bug, I presume).Like others have said, nice to see some parity between operating systems, but it is currently too buggy to use (a shame too, because it looked like some nice new features!)

  65. Alan Cramer says:

    Thanks for your continued support of the linux community. When can we expect to see an alpha or beta of AIR? It would seem whilst Flash is now on par with it’s related releases, AIR doesn’t even have a linux release.There have been heaps of other companies who have promised a linux version upon full release, only to never deliver one. Please give us some hope of seeing AIR on Linux.

  66. mal says:

    I still have the problem where I can’t click in the plugin if compiz is running ( fedora 7 )

  67. radeon woes says:

    did anyone manage to get fullscreen working smoothly on a radeon card? I am using a radeon 9600 with ati’s drivers. i’ve installed ati’s official drivers just for fullscreen flash, and tested opengl with a game from fedora’s repo, and it works. However, playing a youtube video in fullscreen makes the framerate drop to about 4fps, compared to smooth speeds in firefox. I notice no difference between using hardware aceleration and disabling it in settings. Anyone figured it out? [ Fullscreen mode is not automatically accelerated. Flash programmers have to manually make use of the hardware acceleration APIs. Since this is a beta feature, production sites are not going to have it rolled out yet. -Mike M ]

  68. Matt says:

    I tried it and found video to be worse than the previous release. YouTube works fine, but videos on ESPN and Comedy Central have the audio playing properly but the video is extremely slow. It also starts eating up all my CPU cycles. The click thing worked occasionally, but not consistently for me. Nevertheless, thanks for the continuing efforts. In the meantime, I switched back to the non-beta version.

  69. Anonymous Coward says:

    Compared to 9.0r48 this is worse for me 40% -> 50% cpu use at youtube. Disabling hw-accel makes it even worse.Nvidia 6200 driver 100.14.11, Athlon XP 1800+, Debian EtchAbout the click-bug, at first it worked just like it should. Then I wiped .macromedia for this test, and got the click-bug.

  70. kriko says:

    @César Izurieta:http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/kestrel-is-comingFirst release should be close, but don’t ask for date, they don’t answer.

  71. raulillo says:

    Click bug here. Debian Sid, Firefox/Iceweasel 2.0.0.6, kernel 2.6.21-2-686.64-bit version would be greatly appreciated (but this test was with i386 arch).

  72. ghostdog says:

    “I tried it and found video to be worse than the previous release. YouTube works fine, but videos on ESPN and Comedy Central have the audio playing properly but the video is extremely slow”I can confirm this as well. Also CNN video does not work at all.You tube fullscreen works really well.

  73. Great, always nice to see work on the linux player from Adobe.Here it (Firefox 2.0 on SuSE 10.1, x86_64, Compiz) still has the click bug that’s fixed by the ‘right click first, then double left click on the intended target’ work around.Could we get debug versions of the next player update ? (Flex) developers find it hard to give the player the day-to-day testing it deserves without debug/exception support.

  74. Swift says:

    Click bug: yes. (KDE) where it used to work ok.Now, all S263 (Sorenson H263) content is ok but many On2 encoded movies are just choppy and audio goes nuts. Only tested this thru FMS. Is ‘rtmps’ or ‘rtmpt’ working??? Never worked regardless of the version.Fullscreen doesn’t work (Xorg + Nvidia) (Quake 3 works like a charm FYI).-Olivier

  75. micha says:

    Hello,it works pretty good for me, BUT could you make something about the cpu usage?For example while watching a video on youtube (even after it played when these other youtube stuff shows up in the window) it is using between 55 and 62 % cpu for me :(That can’t be right, or?If its important my setup:Athlon XP 2400+ 1GB Ram, Slackware 12, Kernel 2.6.22.1, KDE 3.5.7, Firefox 2.0.0.6Thx, bye

  76. Richi says:

    Is there a support forum? My problem is that after upgrading to the Beta, audio stopped working. When I moved back to the released version (9.0.48), audio was gone as well. I can’t bring back audio playback (just silence).I’m using nspluginwrapper to run it on my X86_64 system, FWIW.

  77. “That’s right: the beta is even available for Linux (same time as Windows and Mac)”Found out about this just now but that’s great news 🙂 Thanks for (finally) making Linux a priority as well!

  78. JordanN says:

    I am using Fedora 7. I have the latest Flash version (via Yum), and Swiftfox 2.0.0.4. When I view a LiveLeak video, my browser crashes.I don’t know if this has been fixed or not, but I thought I’d mention it.

  79. John says:

    Click bug happens for me too, right-button workaround is patchy and makes interacive flash apps next to impossible to use.Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.5) Gecko/20070718 Fedora/2.0.0.5-1.fc7 Firefox/2.0.0.5+ Compiz FusionCurrent production version of Flash player crashes firefox randomly when left for a while (listening to Pandora, for example) or when closing tab containing flash object.

  80. Thank you for updates.

  81. steve says:

    My Daughter is complaining that one of her sites namely http://www.Powerpets.com in the worldmaps flash imagemapActually the first click in the world map works; the second screen following will not accept or acknowledge clicksit does not accept clicks on windows OR just started yesterday when I updated to 9.0.115 on ubuntu 7.10got any clues?

  82. I also have click problems only when in sloppy focus mode. Fedora 7, Metacity 2.18.5, FF 2.0.0.5. However even when using sloppy focus the graphics for a button work as expected–prelight with mouse over, pressed image/shading when button is clicked. Just no action. Tabbing between widgets works, and space does run the action. Shift-LMB also works.

  83. Hörmann says:

    Thank you, thank you thank you. I can’t believe how smooth Flash is in Linux now, and the fact that it is (and now will) keep up with the Win/Mac world is awesome

  84. Jeff says:

    Great, always nice to see work on the linux player from Adobe.Here it (Firefox 2.0 on SuSE 10.1, x86_64, Compiz) still has the click bug that’s fixed by the ‘right click first, then double left click on the intended target’ work around.

  85. Plissee says:

    Excellent work for this. Thanks for this beta Flash Player.

  86. Aristo says:

    64bit version would be awesome. However I’m extremely happy to see that you released this version for all three main platforms.

  87. It simply can’t be appreciated enough, that companys care about Linux-Users too, even if there’s not the big money waiting with that group.Thanks for your work.

  88. Gola Tasche says:

    Thanks for making the update available for Linux Systems!