Squaring Up

A preview release of the next Flash Player (named ‘Square’, designated as version 10.2.161.22) is available for download right from Adobe Labs. We’re pleased to announce that it’s available in both 32- and 64-bit flavors– for Linux, Windows and Mac.

Here is a brief summary of the new stuff. The new GPU acceleration features are particularly exciting.

38 Responses to Squaring Up

  1. Paulo Dias says:

    But about 64 bi… oh… allright… carry on 😀

    (this never gets old ;))

  2. Asa says:

    Are there release notes? When possible, I like to find out why an update is better than what I have.

  3. Mike Melanson says:

    @Asa: I’ll update the main post with some details.

  4. James Ward says:

    Hi all,

    I just posted a video walk through of how to install the 64-bit plugin on Linux:
    http://www.jamesward.com/2010/09/15/install-flash-player-on-64-bit-linux/

    Cheers!

    -James

  5. Name says:

    What about the 128bit version?

  6. Mike Melanson says:

    You mean the Sega Dreamcast version? 🙂 (For those not in the know, the Sega Dreamcast was marketed as a 128-bit game console.)

  7. Name says:

    Is there any reason to update if you run 32bit Linux? Like speed improvements, bug fixes and the like.

  8. Name says:

    Oh and I don’t know if this is just with Chrome, but the vertical alignment of the smilies is quite off.

  9. Mike Melanson says:

    @Name: While we’re always trying to improve, Square is an experimental developers’ preview and might have bugs related to new features.

    And just to get this out there, Square is vulnerable to the security issue disclosed earlier this week.

    Sorry about the blog format. This is my first time toying around with the new blog platform and template that they just migrated all Adobe blogs over to. I’ll try to make it prettier sometime.

  10. xose says:

    and also for LiNUX !!

    -thanks-

  11. Bill says:

    Any comment on acceleration under Linux?

  12. Bill says:

    Any comment on what’s accelerated (if anything) under Linux?

  13. Steve says:

    Mike, great job on getting out a new 64 bit for everyone.

    I do think you should probably drop the GPU acceleration bit in your last sentence (or add a qualifier to it)- people might think you mean Linux (since this is a Flash on Linux blog).
    (Although if you are now announcing new GPU acceleration support for Linux, please ignore the previous sentence.)

  14. joejoe says:

    This is a big deal. Finally you can get the most out of your hardware. Adobe has held up 64 bit computing for far too long. That’s why in the future HTML5 needs to dominate video on the browser.

  15. erveek says:

    Great job Adobe.

    It’s nice to see that development on the Linux platform involves something other than complaining about “minority browsers.”

  16. kriko says:

    This is first time I’m using 64 bit version. So far it works 🙂

  17. Marcus says:

    While it’s nice to see you haven’t totally given up un us 64bit Linux users, IMO things are looking very well for the player lightspark and should be usable as a replacement soon enough. (gnash works until then since youtube works with it)

  18. Jeremy says:

    Is there any kind of commitment from Adobe to keep up with security updates on this? (unlike what happened to the last 64-bit version…)

  19. lxgik says:

    So does it support hardware acceleration in Linux? The link only mentioned IE9, which doesn’t run on Linux.

  20. btk says:

    I’m running the 64bit version on Ubuntu 10.04, and let me say that it is much faster, at least with HD video.

  21. leif81 says:

    Will there be a 64bit yum repo?

  22. I’m excited. Thanks for getting real hardware acceleration. How did you overcome your “Different Problems” issue? Did you contribute needed code to VDPAU? Was the ability to get data back after acceleration there all along as suggested in the comments? Did you figure out how to do the things you thought you needed the data back on the GPU instead?

  23. Shahar Or says:

    Thank you for doing it – and thanks for updating us, Mike!\

  24. Moritz says:

    I really enjoy using this version on my 64 bit arch linux system.
    Youtube videos especially with higher dimension run much smoother!

    Is there already GPU acceleration in or were it cpu program optimizations?
    Maybe you could use OpenCL for platform independent gpu acceleration.

  25. Liran Nuna says:

    As a Flash developer for a living, Thank you.

    A 64bit debugger version would be an awesome add on.

  26. Ricardo says:

    Nice job, Mike! Much better perfomance on my Archlinux!

    Only a few questions:
    1) How did you overcome your “Different Problems” issue? [2]
    2) Any comment on what’s accelerated (if anything) under Linux? [2]

    3) Chrome is developing a good and interesting hardware aceleration system based on OpenGl (so it will be also available for Linux – thanks developers!). Will Adobe work together with Google in this project too?
    P.S. Considering that Adobe and Google have the internal flash plugin project (really great initiative) for Chrome it would be really very nice hearing that Adobe is working with Google for implementingthe opengl hardware aceleration system (joining forces is the best way for making better products).

  27. qMax says:

    Really great news!
    Let’s hope 64bit version is not that buggy as previous attepmts.

  28. Jason says:

    psst you might want to update the right sidebar text which still mentions the removed 64bit alpha and doesn’t have info/ a link to the square preview.

  29. rich says:

    64bit debugger version please?? I so need this for development!

  30. Matt says:

    It is very confusing talking about GPU acceleration features in the linux blog…

    “Try it out by downloading the Internet Explorer 9 Beta and the Flash Player “Square” preview. We’d appreciate your feedback and observations on performance.”

    Shameless plug! Maybe that is where GPU acceleration has gone… deep into your pockets.

  31. 3po says:

    Where is Adobe Flash 10.2 Beta for 64 bit Linux ?

  32. Andre Robatino says:

    @3po: Adobe’s 64-bit link at http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ is pointing to the wrong page. You have to go directly to http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_square.html – AFAIK there’s no link pointing to it.

    @Mike: The Fedora 14 glibc issue is caused by Flash’s improper use of memcpy() (which requires non-overlapping src and dest), where memmove() (which doesn’t) would have worked. An extremely simple fix would be to just globally replace memcpy() by memmove() (in fact some of the workarounds basically just do this in the binary). The latest version _still_ doesn’t fix this. Any reason why what could be a 5-minute fix is taking weeks? Even if glibc ends up being modified to paper over this, it’s still no excuse for not fixing the undefined behavior in Adobe’s source, so Adobe shouldn’t be waiting for that (if that’s what the delay is).

  33. Tim says:

    Why is teh 64 bit Linux version not listed on the download site? The URL you posted is dated 09-27-10, but the big news seems to be about 11-17-10 ?

    What gives?

  34. AC says:

    Come on, this ridicules. The 64-bit versions are gone, again.

  35. Mark says:

    Will we ever see improvements in linux flash performance? I noticed today while working on a windows 7 machine over RDP from my linux box, that flash performance was better than the native linux machine. This is flash running on windows over RDP! Obviously hardware acceleration was not being used in this case and it was still much faster.

  36. Gonzo says:

    Man. This works great, right up until it hard-locks my Lenovo W510.

    Ubuntu 10.10
    nVidia 260 drivers (stable)
    libvdpau 4.5
    Chromium 9 (beta)

    These were the only two hard locks (screen, keyboard, mouse unresponsive; caps-lock light blinking) I’ve ever had on this laptop, and I’ve owned it for months now and play OpenGL games on it all the time (to give an idea of heat/stress indexing).

  37. GonzO says:

    Hm. Caused my W510 to lock up, hard. Twice. Everything unresponsive, caps-lock blinking, only holding power down for five seconds and hard rebooting restored.

    I can’t PROVE it, but: Both lock ups happened within an hour of installing 10.2 beta. They happened within 20 mintues of each other. They haven’t returned since I’ve downgraded back to the official 10.1.

    These are the only two lock-ups I’ve ever had on this computer, and I’ve had it for about three months.

    Lenovo Thinkpad W510
    Chrome 9
    Ubuntu Maverick 10.10
    nVidia driver 260 (latest stable).