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Photoshop CC for Creative Cloud Members Coming Soon!

We’re thrilled to announce that the next version of Photoshop, the world’s most popular digital imaging software, will be available to Creative Cloud members this June! This release, called Photoshop CC, will deliver dozens of new features, including capabilities in sharpening, upsampling and reducing blur, improvements to designer tools, added capabilities in Adobe Camera Raw, and much more.

With incredible advancements in digital imaging technology and endless possibilities for creative professionals, the Photoshop team wants to enable you to take advantage of new innovations as soon as they are available. That’s why we’re releasing Photoshop CC only six months after the release of Photoshop 13.1 in the Creative Cloud. Adobe Sr. Director of Product Management and Customer Engagement Maria Yap shares her thoughts on what this release means for creative professionals here.

There’s something in Photoshop CC for everyone, from designers to photographers. With robust integration with all of your favorite Adobe creative software, integration with Behance, seamless file sharing, and much more, now is the time to become a Creative Cloud member.

Here’s just some of what’s new in this release:

  • All-new Smart Sharpen: Photoshop CC analyzes image data to maximize clarity and minimize noise and halo. A range of new editable options lets you fine-tune images to get richer textures, crisper edges and more distinct details.

    Photoshop Creative Cloud Smart Sharpen
  • Intelligent Upsampling: Preserve detail and sharpness while enlarging images for different print sizes. The new upsampling tool retains edge detail and reduces the noise and artifacts normally associated with enlarging images.

    Photoshop CC Intelligent Upsampling
  • Camera Shake Reduction: Save shots you thought were lost due to camera motion. Whether your blur was caused by slow shutter speed or a long focal length, Camera Shake Reduction analyzes the trajectory of the camera shake and helps restore sharpness.

    Photoshop CC Camera Shake Reduction
  • Editable Rounded Rectangles: Creating shapes has never been so flexible. The ability to resize and re-edit shapes after they’ve been created is one of the most-requested features added to Photoshop CC. Web designers will also be able to export CSS data from files to use later.

    Photoshop CC Rounded Rectangles
  • Adobe Camera Raw 8 and ACR as a filter: Apply new effects to your images with ACR’s new Advanced Healing Brush, Radial Gradient and Upright tools. Adobe Camera Raw’s powerful tools can now be used as a filter, allowing you to use controls like Clarity, Noise reduction and Temperature on any layer at any time.

Have a question about Photoshop CC? We’ve answered a few questions about pricing, availability, and Creative Cloud here.

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Great improvements!! I’m really excited to use try them!!!

    Thanks Marco. We’re pretty excited about getting it in customer’s hands, too!

      Is it possible to use any of the new features prior to the release date–?

        No. Trials of CC applications will up in mid June for customers to try out for 30 days.

And, just as expected, Adobe is yet again punishing people who choose to buy their software rather than rent it. Why not just be honest and only have Creative Cloud instead of your current deceptive business practices of offering the paid version, only to punish people who buy it as one of your supported products?
I have two major gripes with Creative Cloud. Fix those, and I might use it:
1. The price in Denmark is almost double the US price – for the same product distributed electronically. There is no reason for this difference other than Adobe’s notorious greediness – just ask Australians.
2. There is no exit strategy. Should I ever wish to cancel my subscription, there is no way for me to pay what remains to keep the current version at that time. That is unreasonable, as I would have paid quite a bit for that software until that point.

    The other issue is now Adobe will lock you into using their products only and if you quit paying their ransom you won’t be able to open your files again until you do again.

    It’s time for the United States Government to investigate Adobe for this. Adobe, you’re putting your greed ahead of your customers. Adobe is just another company that doesn’t want society to own anything anymore. You’re just another brick in the wall.

    The ironic thing is that if the Knoll brothers had been in an environment back in 1987 where no one can own anything, there probably wouldn’t be a Photoshop today.

    Bring on the feds.

      I am starting the search for viable alternatives to Photoshop, and I expect the soon to be CC’ed Photoshop Lightroom. Finding….

      It’s time for the United States Government to investigate Adobe for this.

      Well said. I’m writing my Senator!

      As I think about this, it is much like the old Company Store model that Adobe wants you to join. A part of your company salary to company for your provisions to work for the company. I have what I need. Alternatives aren’t that difficult to find…

      If you really want to blame someone, blame the 60% piracy rate of Photoshop…

      I’m not saying I particularly like this move from Adobe. But at the same time, I really don’t blame them. Drastic measures being taken, while making applications like Photoshop far more available to those who may want it when they want it.

      No sense complaining about the previous high price of Photoshop before and then complain about the reasonable $20 USD a month for a single app like Photoshop. For the price you previously paid for Photoshop (that is, IF one even paid for it), you can get three years of Photoshop with Creative Cloud, plus upgrades (if I’m not mistaken).

      One thing about this move is that it completely robs all the excuses of the pirates. If you can’t afford $20.00 USD a month to use Photoshop, you probably don’t need Photoshop. And if you’re not using Photoshop to make more money than $20 to $50 a month, then you are most likely not a working professional.

      This also makes Adobe products far more available to freelancers and small businesses, who can easier pay $20 to $50 USD a month for applications rather than the previous full prices which they’d grumble about. Though, it seems nobody grumbles more than the non-professional, the everyday person who simply isn’t the scope of Photoshop. At least, the ones who complain tend to sound unprofessional.

      I’ll never understand non-professionals who complain about a professional product. Professionals don’t complain–they spend money to make money. They know that for what they pay, it pays for itself. If you can’t live up to that standard, don’t go crying–go to school.

      Either that or just use a free alternative, which, while isn’t nearly as good as Photoshop, there are many freelancing individuals making a living using regardless. Any way you go, you’re just doing a lot of complaining. Adapt or go home.

        would you like it if you went to buy a car and you were told you could only rent one? You want to use tires too? that’s going to change the price. Who’s to say Adobe doesn’t change their pricing plan 6 months from now and the cost to the consumer goes up because subscription goes down. CS5.5 is is far as I’ll go and I’ll start donating that $20 to development of a free alternative which is where many of us will go.
        And 60% piracy rate? There are no statistics on the rate, so you just made shit up.

          The $20 / month is the main reason I switched to Photoshop CS6 where I would never pay $700 for it. As for pirating, I guess you have never been to South America or China where copies are sold by the thousands. Adobe, you are going the right way.

          So, some people finds it good that due to piracy reasons the honest buyers must be the ones to be punished and prevented from owning what they pay for?
          Funny theory!

          Brian says he will ” never understand non-professionals who complain about a professional product” and he’s right about the way professionals decide on the basis of cost/return, but apart from that isn’t he showing some “lack of understanding” about the definition of “professional product”?

          Or is he just fearing the competition in a changing market and hoping this kind of decisions will bring back non-professional demand to his business?

          The use of a product depends on the user skills and if Adobe decides to alienate non-professional customers via unreasonable prices and unacceptable renting practices, there are alternatives out there.

          For people that always keep their products up-to-date, like I do, CC is far cheaper.

          Adobe feeds the piracy because their prices are so outrageous, the consumer barely getting by and needs the software cannot afford it. Cut way down on the price and piracy will be cut down also.

        Whilst I do not blame any software company trying to battle piracy, if the software is running client side the software is open to abuse. I bet the same people who can fool CS6 and earlier versions into thinking it is running a valid licence will no doubt be able to fool Photoshop CC into thinking it is running on a valid and active CC subscription. I’d be willing to bet that within weeks if not days after Photoshop CC is released there will be pirated versions available. Not until the software is running server side will it be almost impossible if not impossible to pirate because the people who modify the files won’t have access to the files to modify. When Adobe take that road to battle piracy you’ll be complaining along with the rest.

        I must question your 60% piracy rate, if 60% of the people who run Adobe software were running pirated versions Adobe would have gone out of business a long time back.

        I personally do not own any version of Photoshop, legit or pirated but I had been saving up for CS7. Now I know CS7 is not coming I will sit back and see what happens. If this model continues without Adobe offering an option to use Photoshop without subscription either by choice or by force from the EU courts, as I feel this model will contravene the EU law which prevents companies abusing their dominance in the market place, I will not bother subscribing to CC and put the money I have saved towards a new lens for my camera. Microsoft are just one of the big companies who have fallen foul of this EU law in the past and have not only had to pay fines totalling $2.4 billion USD, but have also had to modify their trading policies in Europe to continue selling Windows in EU countries.

        I’m sorry but do you seriously think restricting an app to the cloud is going to stem the piracy of the program? Watch, it’s gonna be pirated and piracy rates I anticipate only dropping slightly due to some buying in to the rental software model.

        The piracy crutch has been too long used. Most of these people who pirate have no intention of actually buying the software in the first place. In the end it’s really just flat out corporate greed. Pay raises occur, more employees get hired, higher ups wanna keep their bonuses. Photoshop is more or less industry standard software with primary clients being in schools, photography studios as well as game, design, movie production houses. And of course the federal government. See the pattern? Businesses. To anyone that’s run a business knows you don’t dare risk using pirated software and those are the claims that are usually perused legally.

        The actual problem I have though is more that there is no option whatsoever to simply purchase a copy of the software. Free updates is not a justification to adopt into a rental software model. CC WILL be pirated, I have no doubts about that and much like DRM, the only ones that get shafted are those like us who actually pay for the software. And as another person pointed out, the pricing is not fair considering Adobe doesn’t keep it consistent with international pricing vs US pricing. So a good number outside of the US are having to pay nearly double which wasn’t the case with just buying the software outright. CC is a good OPTION to have available but should not be a mandate, especially when it comes to industry standard software.

        Hopefully though this will cause other tools and what not to rival Photoshop more competitively. I will not support this model by buying into it as this is the beginning of a much larger problem in the future and before you know it, we’ll end up having to pay a monthly bill just to use the core software on our computers. There comes a point where certain business models do need to be illegal.

        Brian L. must be one of those types like here in America that say “If you don’t like it you can just get out” Sounds like a stuck up ‘professional’ type and doesn’t see the bigger picture of things. If this model is proven successful what’s to stop Microsoft from charging you a subscription fee just to use Windows? What about Apple who is always money hungry? Oh there’s free alternatives.. but then this software would not likely work well on them. Photoshop on Linux for example isn’t exactly a simple install process.

        Problem is people don’t think that far into the future but with the greed these companies have at the end of the day, it’s gonna wind up being a problem for other software when those companies want you buying into a subscription model. An example of this is just check out PC games. Reduce the piracy rate by making it harder to pirate a game, one solution is to require an always on connection on an authenticated server which if that connection is even temporarily interrupted, the software halts. There were those that were in favor of this but are game prices going down with the decreased piracy rates? Nope.

        Look at the Xbox One… requires activation and install on all games for it. Making it more of a pain in the ass to go to a friend’s place to play your game with them or unable to go down to gamestop or a thrift store to pick up a used game because they want that increased revenue.

        Like I said, it’s not gonna be long until we’re paying a bill for each company/software title when this kinda crap is forced on us. CC IS good in the sense that it does give those who would not drop down $700+ on a piece of software and do not mind renting their software. So it has a place.. as an option. You pay monthly fees for services. Such as your internet connection, your cell phone, cable bill. Once Blizzard started that subscription based gaming junk.. I knew it was only a matter of time before it’d happen with productivity software itself. Had people going naaaaw.. they’ll never do that. Heh, low and behold here we are. Next step will be your office suite if you’re fond of MS Office and with Chrome OS more or less out… I don’t doubt that MS and Apple are watching to see how successful adobe will be with this model. We can only hope development houses and what not won’t buy into this crap on a large scale.

        I am more than certain hackers will find out how to crack the CC too.

        This have __NOTHING__ to do with fighting piracy, – it’s just pretending!

        If Adobe was true about this, – why don’t they make some long time supported CC versions which you could stay on for a flat price???
        Because that’s not what it’s all about.

        It’s about getting in a position where you can’t afford not to pay the ransom (which Adobe might very well raise in the futre). To say it directly, you put yourself in a situation where Adobe could easily blackmail you legally!

        For big companies doing most of their work using Adobe products this is dangerous, but I believe it’s going to work. (If Adobe raises the prices to fast, they might actually succed, but probably only for a very short time. The those big companies will find other solutions – simply because they have to!)

        For creative amateurs, small business, big business which do only uses Adobe on a small part of what they do. This is a disaster.

        The change will not stop pirating, they have probably already figured a way around it. If you believe otherwise, I have some land in the middle of Death Valley I will gladly sell you. Even Adobe admits they can not stop piracy. No the real reason for this is the nature of the beast. Most people do not upgrade every cycle and Wall street wants to see a income level without sharp highs and lows. That is good for Adobe and Investors and a matter of opinion whether or not it is good for users.

        As to the subscription, when the cloud first started it was obvious to me the handwriting was on the wall for the reasons above.

        The mistake being made the is the emphasis on “designers” as shown by combining Photoshop and Photoshop Extended; unnecessary and should not have happen. For photographs they should keep it simple and streamlined. The real solution would be a product similar to Lightroom but with the best of Photoshop added and with Elements replaced by such product. That is my simple opinion.

    Pixelmator, here I come!

      I don’t want to sound like an Adobe apologist, but I’ve tried making the switch to Pixelmator, and I just couldn’t do it. All the effects I could add to text to make it shine, shadow, or look slightly embossed; I can’t do them in Pixelmator at all. I had to Google to find how to use pencil – it exists, but it’s not on the toolbar for some reason. And maybe it’s just me, but I couldn’t work out their colour-tinting tools at all.

      I love what the Pixelmator guys are doing, and I’ll keep trying it out. (It’s so beautifully cheap, and install from the Apple Apps-Store is a snip.) I didn’t think I was a Photoshop power-user. I’ve been using it since Photoshop 3 on the old PowerPC Macs, and I’m just self-taught. But I keep hitting the limits of Pixelmator’s capabilities. I hope Pixelmator gets to the point where I can be a mostly-Pixelmator user soon though.

      Also, that remove motion-blur feature: that’s awesome. I have to have that.

        You’re absolutely right. Pixelmator lacks decades of maturity that Photoshop has. Even in places where it’s just as good but different, it’s really very different, so it’s a pain to learn how to do things if you’re an old Photoshop user from the 1980’s, like me. I can’t disagree with anything you said.

        And yet, Photoshop these days is such a pain to acquire and maintain and upgrade, I don’t care. It’s not even the price of Photoshop that drives me away. It’s the utter confusion created by the purchase process. Even seemingly simple questions like “How much does Photoshop cost?” or “What’s the latest version of Photoshop?” or “Is it localized for the languages I speak?” don’t have simple answers. The “App Store” sucks in many ways, but simple questions at least have simple answers.

        I love it when my employer buys me a new system with Photoshop on it, and I gladly use it when I’m given it. Once you get through the red tape, it’s the best at what it does. But for my personal use, I’ll save the frustration and just use Pixelmator, because I get 90% of the functionality that I actually use, for 10% of the frustration. The fact that it happens to be 90% cheaper is just the icing on the cake. I’d pick Pixelmator even if it cost as much as Photoshop (whatever that means — since Photoshop doesn’t have just one price), because I’d rather spend 2 minutes googling “how to use the pencil in pixelmator” than 2 days googling “how to install photoshop localization”.

        Now, I can see a big chance for Corel to deliver more convincing products.
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          Corel has never delivered a quality product. It’s amazing they still exist.

    The Australian Consumer Watch dog called all the major software companies in for a talk recently and asked how it is that Australians pay more for a digital download than others around the world. Adobe before even fronting the discussion dropped there prices . It went from $70 to $50…. :-)

    I “OWN” Adobe Creative Suite 5.5, and I’ve been buying every other release of Creative Suite for a while, but this will mark the end for me. I will never rent software. I am not always in a place that has access to the internet, and I’m NOT going to be paying Adobe FOREVER to use a piece of software.
    At some point in time CS5.5 will quit working with a more modern design of computer, so I’ll have to keep a couple of vintage computers around to run CS 5.5. I can do that…and I will. Good thing we use Macs…they tend to last forever. We still have a Mac Cube and a G4 iMac that still look and work like new…as long as you keep to the software of the day. Yes, we have nice new ones as well :)
    I don’t, nor will I EVER rent (lease) a car for my everyday needs…that’s nothing more than a loosing proposition for the customer, and a BIG profit for the manufacturer. I’m SURE people will be lured my the “you’ll always have access to the latest version” propaganda, if only you’d RENT!!!!! Well, NOT ME!!!!
    Microsoft has been wanting this for a long time for their software (I couldn’t care less), but, what it means is they simply want MORE MONEY…that is their motivation with this concept; Nothing else. Still, there will still be many who will bite, but that’s fools gold. BTW, who says todays policy of “$Whatever price they want” for now, will not be increased sharply later? It’s not like you’ll have a choice…you’ll be stuck having to pay…$$Whatever$$ they want…but,it’s your money. Decide wisely!

      I can see Apple doing this as well. Apple is a cash cow and anyway they can get in more $$$ they will do it. They have the following of people who buy into the ecosystem and will typically do it without question.

      Just as a side note. Any computer will generally work the same if you stick to software of the day. ;) I’ve dealt with so many people who literally threw away their desktops because it got slower over time. They were using newer software on a 6 year old computer…and the OS had never been formatted according to some of the dates on the core files and folders.

      But yeah I don’t doubt MS will start off with it’s pro products such as Server, Visual Studio, Sharepoint and I think Office is already on a subscription model but just as an option. That’s why i’m raising the fuss now because it starts with pro grade software and works it’s way down to general software. Corporate greed at its finest. Oddly enough this one happens to lure in people who can’t drop down $700+ on a piece of software so it’s good for them. That’s why the rental bit should be an option but not the only option.

      Concerning the old computer you should keep to run old software the solution is simple : Virtualisation software… And if a virtualisation software no more support an OS just put your old virtualisation software into another virtualisation software ;-)

So is this CS7 essentially or will the CS and CC products now start to differ?

    CS products will no longer be advanced. That is, they will not be upgraded to say, CS7. Only the CC products will contain any new features from this point. And of course as the CC moniker suggests, they will only be available to Creative Cloud members.

      your telling bullshit…. w have to use adobe apps on system that are not connected to the interent.

      adobe would never abandon this business….

        First, stop being rude.

        Second, they just did. They announced it. No more boxed products.

        Third, what does being “always connected to the internet” has to do with anything? You don’t need that to use the Creative Cloud. You only have to connect and check your license once per month or per six months, depending on your subscription type. You can use it offline all you want the rest of the time.

      true. this is the time for other apps rise from darkness and prove they can be use in the real world. Adobe is dividing art between money and knowledge

    Adobe will not release CS7 – they announced this morning that they are discontinuing the production of the Creative Suite (though they will continue to sell and provide support for CS6) and put all of their creative focus on the creative cloud.

      Missed the announcement – thanks!

      your telling bullshit!!

        I’m going to generously assume that English is not your native language, hence your lousy diction and grammar, and also your apparent inability to read Adobe’s own press releases.
        Creative Suite is dead. Creative Cloud is all there is now.

        Go read your uniformed idiot.

        They have the announcement all over the Adobe website, and it’s explained in several news sources and videos.

LOL! Editable Rounded Rectangles touted as awesome new feature in Photoshop CC. Sorry, Photoshop, you’re 10 years late compared to Macromedia (Adobe) Fireworks. ;)

You are constantly copying features from Adobe Fireworks to Adobe Photoshop — then you kill Fireworks. Not fun, not at all… that’s lame.

    Michel, I agree. It was awful when Adobe bought out their competition instead of competing with them with their own products. Adobe has become too big to be good for society anymore and the U.S. government needs to look at their anti-competitve, monopolistic actions. It’s time to regulate Adobe.

    They would never pull this move to Creative Cloud only if they had more competition and had any respect for their customers.

    Adobe is an abhorrent corruption of what it used to be. It’s a shame and they should be ashamed.

    My first thought exactly. I still find it incomprehensible that PS has become a de facto standard amongst so many web designers. I’ve been designing websites since the mid ’90s and there has never been a point where PS was a good choice. It’s almost painful to watch a designer coerce PS into doing something (almost anything in fact) when you know they could shave hours off their day if they’d only try FW instead.

    To see it so criminally neglected is a real shame.

    They need to discontinue that pos. Tried it long time ago and never used it again. Why even have it?

screw it.. i will never join the cloud idiocy.. all adobe wants is our money.

and loyal customers are fuked by adobe…as they will not releae this to people who payed 2000 EURO for the suite.

FO

    true

    Then don’t join it.

    This is for professionals, who HAVE to use Adobe tools, not for dabblers.

      Amen!

      I smell some of that professional narcissism again. Kinda coming off like the ‘artist’ who feels like there’s too much ‘art’ in the world and those of ‘lower caliber’ should not be allowed to display it.

      Sorry dude but software rentals on productivity software isn’t even ideal for all professional types either not to mention not every business may connect a computer to the internet. Let alone some who work out in the field for a year plus in an area with no internet whatsoever. Yes it’s a small niche but this model clearly will not work for them either. Are they not professional enough by your standards to not have to buy into a subscription only model?

      Before being a professionnal you always start by being an amateur… What about them ? Autodesk has understood the amateur by giving their softwares for free for the ones who want to learn !

Please tell me that a fix to the horrible text scaling introduced in CS6 will be in this updated as well.

Creative Cloud only?

Goodbye Adobe. After 20 years of buying your product and upgrades and getting countless businesses and associates to buy your products, I’m finished with you.

I’m going to put all my efforts into supporting GIMP, Pixelmator, etc. and get away from your greed.

You’re just another example of how corporatists don’t want anyone to own anything anymore. I want you to go down in flames over this and will do everything in my power to help that along.

Adobe. You are putting greed ahead of your customers and society.

    LOVE YOU and am with you. I too am a user, ahem, customer since 1990, well I bought Illustrator in 1988.

    You have alienated a huge segment of your base. There are alternatives which are guess what — good enough.

    Even if you paid Full Retail price for a product you Do Not own it! It is the same principle behind a drivers license. When we buy a license we undergo opting into an end users license agreement (EULA) It matters not which software company you buy from, or the type of software, all software has an EULA. Adobe is not trying to corner anyone, if you want CS6 then upgrade. If you are a professional then the benefits and price point to CC outweigh the perpetual based software. CC goes way beyond just software. It comes with 25k worth of typefaces for web and print publishing, the ability to host 5 websites for free, file sharing that rivals any other cloud based sharing, which equals faster approval times. Also allows app developers to publish apps without writing code, and NO cap on how many you publish for free. BeHance allows its member to showcase their work to expand client base for free ($100 per membership), and links them into an online community to enhance their skill set. Not to mention additional software that allows it’s members to expand upon what they are currently doing, which then expands their bank account. The whole purpose of a month to month is to give us, the customer access to the latest innovations, and fixes that the static software of old cannot do, without paying to upgrade again, and again. If you are the type that needs to stay on the cutting edge, (which professional does not?!) the CC grants that to stay competitive. If you are that type you are always upgrading as new versions come out. In the long run it actually saves money, and the hassle of upgrading. As someone mentioned above, the “dabblers” are not Adobes target market. Their target market is the professional.

      @ Arc:
      You’re buying into the myth…Most professionals dont need the latest and greatest. The smart ones wait to see whats going to work and choose whether or not to invest. We let the noobies and students be the lab rats. So are we to understand that you also rent your computer as a pro?Look the bottom line is if you were a longtime user and paid for upgrades the price of an upgrade to use as you see fit was 1/3 the cost of the cloud based on a two or three year upgrade. Secondly, with upgrade plan you could determine what worked and didnt work with your hardware and plug-ins and if the program didnt work you could reinstall the previous version if you had the discs. Look at the issues Adobe has had with the last Audition software, its been three years and where are those bug fixes. Thirdly, cancel your subscription for any reason and you lose the use of the software you’ve invested so much time and money with over the years. Its also worth noting that under the cloud agreement, Adobe takes the position they can refuse or drop you at anytime. Be a professional and look before you leap.

    If you’re a true working professional in an industry, good luck living with the GIMP.

“Monthly Adobe tax”

You can take your CC and shove it up your @$$, Adobe.

    $49/month (less if you already own CS) just isn’t that much money for tools that do what Adobe’s do. Not sure what you’re complaining about.

      The monthly fee over a period of a year is still cheaper than the upgrades I was paying (in Australia) plus I get to use the whole of Adobes products. If you use it for business, it’s a tax deduction. What are you complaining about???

        Tax laws can change but in all seriousness it’s still a forced software rental model. This will not be good for the software industry as a whole in the long run. Back when WoW came out I knew it was only a matter of time before productivity software would go a subscription only route. Here we are adobe taking that big step and guess who’s eying the progress on this? Microsoft… Apple.. just to name a couple. Trust me.. it won’t be long before those two companies implement subscription only models on their software… quite likely even their operating systems.

        Also the access to updates, yes you’re paying them more in the long run for them to fix the bugs they should have fixed in earlier versions..which they then call features. Microsoft did this model back with Windows 98 SE. I admit Adobe makes some good software overall but they still tend to be behind the times on features. I can’t believe Autosave only just made it with CS6. That should have been in photoshop 20 years ago.

Really Adobe? Thank you for screwing me over, i never pirated your software, and i always told my colleagues never to,but i don’t stand by this, thank you Adobe, One little customer does not matter to you.

    No, it doesn’t. They are making decisions based on the majority of their users, not what some individuals will want, and seeing that they know the results of them running Creative Cloud subscriptions for like two years already, they probably are positive.

    Not really seeing what’s the problem here. Instead of paying $2000+ for the CS, you pay $50 a month. If you upgraded your CS as often as they put one out, then it would be slightly cheaper or mostly the same.

    The main difference is you don’t get to choose if you want to update or not — you are always on the latest version (well, you can still delay installing the update, but you’ll still pay your subscription, whereas you could use the same Photoshop version for 5 or 10 years for a one-off price). But I don’t think people using the same CS version for 5-10 years are the kind of customers they want to have.

      We don’t pay $2000.00, unless you’re a new user. The upgrade price was $600.00. So maybe you can see the $50.00/month isn’t any kind of a deal…they’re just financing the purchase that never ends…call rental.

        So, you don’t make more than $50 a month using Adobe products? I don’t see the problem much if you’re making a good professional living with the tools. People keep acting like they’re not making the money back from their tools. If $50 a month is too much for you, you might need a new career.

          Brian, seriously. You really do need to stop being a narcissistic ‘professional’. You really do come of as this… elitist type person and clearly do not see the bigger problem with rental software.

          The thing is I have a very strong IT background myself and I do deal in assisting with the purchasing decisions since our department pretty much helps determine what software tools associates will be using. One thing that corporations do not do that often is upgrade the software. When we couple a software package with the hardware we have to ensure it works flawlessly, even security updates can cause issues that put production to a halt and ultimately need to remove them. Also with Adobe software we have noticed it takes roughly 3-4 versions for the upgrade to be worthwhile and even then it’s at upgrade pricing and usually by then we’ve upgraded some hardware so the newer version would do okay.

          It’s only natural for Adobe to attempt to recoup those losses by enforcing a software licensing model that forces a business to pretty much pay for constant upgrades even if you choose not to install them and then claim it to be mainly about fighting piracy and sugarcoat it with ‘free upgrades’. We’d save more upgrading every 3-4 versions than we do even on volume license pricing which I can attest Adobe does not offer a significant discount on. If you’ve worked in IT then you know how critical it is that if something isn’t broke, don’t fix it applies. We get bug fixes advertised as new features.

          This model may work just fine for you and that’s great. This is why it is a good option to have even for the people you continually insult by playing them down as less than you are because you are some sort of professional. But one thing you need to understand is how this will impact business costs in the long term particularly for corporations.

          Here at Amazon we’ve begun transitioning away from Microsoft software due to the yearly licenses we were forced to pay to keep our technology current. By switching over the bulk of our customer service operations to Linux systems and open office we’ve saved over 10 million a year for our call centers in the US alone and that was only with a partial transition.

          This of course also means a reduction in our Adobe licenses as well so we stand to save quite a bit by not buying much into the software rental model. This affects us professionals even on a corporate level and clearly at this time some of our corporate employees do still require access to Adobe software.

          But yes this does affect even the ‘dabblers’ who honestly have just as much right to access the software as you do and every right to complain when they simply use the tools as a hobbyist who saved up some money to purchase it or got an upgrade at a discount through a bundled version of Photoshop Elements to get the full blown version is now being expected to pay a monthly fee to use newer software. What about non-profits who use this software? Tax deductions are only good around tax time. Not every month.

          It’s only a matter of time until this business model of monthly fee for access to software begins trickling down to home users as well and given the sheer greed I’ve experienced on professional and personal levels, it will only be a matter of time before you are paying Apple or MS just to use your operating system each month. That is why people are complaining. It’s not about them being the pirates or ones not professional enough to use it as you seem to believe.

Apparently the comments on this page are from people who have never had to pay for an Adobe program and actually use it for their business. Creative Cloud allows its users to have access to the latest design technology with constant updates, at a much cheaper price than buying EVERY ADOBE program out right and the freedom to use it anywhere. Adobe is not a “not-for-profit,” it is a business. And most likely you are using THEIR product to MAKE YOURSELF MONEY you freaking socialist hypocrites. Not only are they making it easier to use and access, they have made it far more affordable, especially for small agencies and freelancers. Haven’t most of been updating the CS versions every couple years anyway? The old CS version was worth nothing once the new version came out. And you still end up shelling out thousands of dollars to buy the new version. How is this different than paying monthly for Creative Cloud? How is this different than paying rent for an office space or leasing a car? I’m confused on why anyone would comment on Adobe being greedy if they are just practicing smart business. They have the best product in the world, lets make it easier and more affordable for all while giving our clients access to the latest technology faster. Don’t comment on how so called “corporatists” are greedy if you don’t actually understand how the free market works.

    @Andre: And that’s what they want you to think of it as- essential business tool. To some degree, yes. But to many people, software is a TOOL. If I buy a hammer, then I have it forever and it always works. If need a jackhammer occasionally I rent it. But I don’t want to rent a hammer forever and one day have the rental agency tell me I can’t rent this hammer, we’re out of business and you can’t use it any more. Or we changed the hammer and now it’s a drill and you can’t do things the same way.
    It’s mainly upsetting because many people will now feel like, in order to have Photoshop to use, they will pay for it FOREVER and will never be able to stop or they won’t be able to open images after they stop paying, for whatever reason (business closes, retirement, change of job, etc).

      You’re comparing Photoshop to a hammer? Well guess what you have that hammer still if you want to use CS6. When new tools come out, you have to purchase them also, or you can use the hammer to do that sawing.

        How many programs are on your computer? How many monthly rentals would you want to make, much less be able to afford, if the entire industry decides to rent their software? This trend can lead to this kind of thing spreading to other companies…do the math. If people support this, others will follow. Microsoft has publicly said so (though I couldn’t care less about Microsoft…I use Macs).
        You may be the kind of person that thinks they can perpetually rent a vehicle, and save money. Amazing!

      Do you honestly think Adobe is ever going to close their business? They are one of the most successful companies in the world for over 10 or even 20 years, almost can be compared to Apple.
      Secondly, imagine a hammer brand that is upgraded constantly every year or so. Instead of paying $20 each year for a new hammer,you now can pay $0.50 a month for renting the “creative hammer”, (resulting in $6 per year) and get a shiny, new one every time it is available. For Adobe’s prices, simply multiply everything by 100. Also, you can get as many copies of this hammer as you want, and use them in all of your construction site’s, or whatever you wish to compare it to (you can install software from CC in every computer by logging in to your account). And you can also use some nails, screws and other tools that you didn’t get the chance to try before because you didn’t have enough money.
      If you really use a tool for a professional purpose, you want to keep it in a good shape, and not to stick it in your drawer and getting it out 20 years later

    Perhaps you’re just naive, Andre? The big difference is that before, I could buy a copy of Photoshop and the license was *perpetual*, which meant that I was licensed to use that copy of that version of Photoshop *forever*. If my hardware requirements and feature needs didn’t change, then that software remained useful to me for as long as I wanted it to be.
    Now, Adobe is forcing me to rent software, forcing me to pay for upgrades every year, and threatening me with the inability to open my documents if I ever decide to leave the Creative Cloud payment plan.
    It’s extortion, plain and simple, and I look forward to an EU commission doing to Adobe what it did to Microsoft over their equally abusive activity in the field of web browsers.

      No you don’t have to pay for updates, this is for all future versions and updates. rather than paying $600 or whatever every time a new version comes out, you just get an update. simple as that.

      You’re complaining about paying less or the same over time. i don’t understand this.

      you also act like their file format is proprietary.

        To quote Ripley from Aliens: “Did IQs just drop sharply?”

        “No you don’t have to pay for updates, this is for all future versions and updates.”
        So… in other words, I’m paying for updates, right?

        “rather than paying $600 or whatever every time a new version comes out, you just get an update. simple as that.”
        Here’s a radical idea: what if I don’t *want* an update? What if I don’t *need* an update? Those choices have been taken away from me by this move.

        You’re complaining about paying less or the same over time. i don’t understand this.
        Maybe because you’re in the US and you don’t get price-gouged just for the privilege of your download travelling slightly further across the internet to get to you? This is a slightly separate shit sandwich, but in the UK, I’d be paying almost $900 a year. How you like them apples?

        “you also act like their file format is proprietary.”
        Please furnish me with the long and distinguished list of software that can open After Effects files and work on them in a similar way.
        What’s that? Yeah. Thought not.
        You’ve also obviously never had to work on an Illustrator file that came out of Corel Draw.

          The same goes for us in the U.S. when we do business with a UK company…so accept this as an industry wide scheme, not Adobe’s, nor a U.S. policy. Although, I don’t disagree with your grip, keep your anti U.S. attitude to yourself.

          If you don’t need an update, just keep using the CS6 and don’t ever check this website again. You are right. CS6 is more than enough. But if you have a stable business, and you can afford it, I don’t see a reason why not to get the best and the first, in the most simple way that can ever be?

          Adobe wants money. Most of the chances are that this step will bring them more customers rather than making them loose ones. If you can’t fight them, join them!

      “””Perhaps you’re just naive, Andre? The big difference is that before, I could buy a copy of Photoshop and the license was *perpetual*, which meant that I was licensed to use that copy of that version of Photoshop *forever*. If my hardware requirements and feature needs didn’t change, then that software remained useful to me for as long as I wanted it to be.”””

      Yes. Which in practice amounts to like 5-6 years. Most software ages, new versions come out, old versions are incompatible with new OSs or don’t support latest features (camera models, codecs, wacom tablets, whatever, etc) and technologies.

      In an age where browsers are constantly updated, it’s not that controversial to constantly update (and rent) your software too.

      Now, if the price is seen as too steep, that I can get behind. Personally I think it’s OK, as it offers me the chance to break down payment to $50 / month, whereas else I would have to fork $2000+ up front for the whole suite. But I would like to see things like update offers and such (e.g after a year of using CC, you get to lower your rate somewhat).

    Excuse me! I’ve paid for every version I’ve ever used! $1700.00 initially, and $600.00 for my last upgrade, which was CS5.5. Where are all of your savings? $50.00/month * 12 = $600.00/yr. So maybe keeping your software up to date isn’t your problem…maybe it’s math!

      If you bought every version and you still own CS5.5 then you didn’t buy every version. CS6 was the last version and I only paid Adobe $375 for that upgrade. Since the upgrade cycles have historically been closer to 18 months rather then the more recent 12 months the correct equation would be $50×18=$900. Theres no savings. I’m paying $525 more then I have in the past. Thats a 250% increase.

    Hey just so you know, there is absolutely nothing wrong with socialism. Capitalism promotes greed, socialism promotes social wellbeing. Did you know that New Zealand for example uses a socialist style welfare system? It’s true. The ones that are homeless are ones who refuse charity, are criminals or illegal immigrants. Everyone pays an equal percentage in taxes as well. I sure hope you aren’t one of those ones that believes socialism = dictatorship. I think you’ll find that those who are not biased or have a vested interest in corporations aren’t that into capitalism and don’t play into the usual fears that come into play. The EU for example is quite socialist overall and if you pay attention to the regulations there you generally find more consumer protections and corporations get away with much less. It’s rather refreshing. They have a nice mix of socialism and capitalism. They also tend to take care of their citizens better than they do here in the US.

I don’t see what the problem is. Of course, I’m already a CC customer so maybe that’s why I fail to see the downside. I’m glad to see these updates, although I will admit they aren’t as exciting as ones in the past. I don’t know that Adobe is as complacent as many of you suggest – if they slack, a determined competitor could easily swoop in – they know that, they’re not stupid.

    There is one thing that no one seems to see right now. Back in time Adobe was forced to innovate, to encourage people to upgrade their tools. I usually skipped every other version because the progress wasn’t that great and I am sure Adobe didn’t like that. To be honest, Photoshop reached the point where there is not much that needs to be added that’s where the Creative Clouds comes handy.

    Adobe does’t need to innovate anymore they can ask you to pay for the same tool over and over again. Of course we just saw another bunch of “new” features today but who knows what future will bring.

    Not to mention that working on location will be an issue if you don’t have an internet for a long time to validate your software ….

      Back in time innovations were also “low hanging fruits”.

      After you’ve built a strong and complete enough offering, innovating gets more difficult. You can’t just pull **** out of a hat anymore, whereas in the old times, innovations were quite obvious stuff (“add layers”, “add styles”, “add RAW support” etc).

      [Hi Foljs - please keep the language clean on our site. Thanks. - jtranber]

    When the company is forcing you to pay every month for all users of their software, they already have your money for an already released version and have no real motivation to make significant innovations. Look how long it took Adobe just to get in an Autosave feature of sorts. That should have been in there 20 years ago and in EVERY piece of their software in which saving files is needed.

    In time you become more or less pacified in that you’re paying your monthly fee only to find Photoshop CC to be lacking in new features to warrant a new version… next.. whatever they will call CC2… will be even less exciting I’m certain. It usually takes Adobe a good 3-4 versions to make anything remotely worthwhile to upgrade for. I know my share of digital artists who are still using CS2. However the problem is over time computers do ultimately need to be upgraded if not flat out replaced. The OS you run 10 years from now may not even support an older version of the software thus you are forced to upgrade… after 10 years of using the same software you paid 3 grand for and now cannot simply pay a $600 upgrade to get another 8-10 years of use. So 10 years from the initial investment. At $50 a month that’s $6,000/ $600 a year. Usually takes Adobe about a year and a half maybe two years to release a new version. So I’m technically paying more money than I would be simply upgrading the software on each new release at the $600 price.

    So it’s good in the sense it means no lump sum investment up front much like those who prefer layaway but in the long run you’re paying more for software that’s less innovative in each iteration. Also there is nothing stopping Adobe from raising the cost of the subscription later on and it’s foolhardy to think the company would keep their subscriptions near the debut price as Netflix has. But yes, CC sounds appealing but there is no real cost benefit to it compared to the perpetual license model. All they buy into is the whole ‘I have access to EVERYTHING for only $50 a month’ and negate the fact the initial $3k investment tends to go a long way because it’s just really not generally worth it to upgrade with each new version that comes out and in the long term you wind up paying more.

Are they going to fix the paragraph and character styles slowness in this new version? They are unusable right now.

What about all of us “serious amateurs” who don’t run a business but do use CSxx – it makes NO sense for us to purchase a subscription yet we happily upgrade our CSxx whenever it comes out. Are we no longer important to Adobe, or do they feel they can justify our spending $600/yr for access to just Photoshop? At least I cannot justify that kind of expense for my hobby for Software – sorry Adobe, you’ll lose me as a customer and my guess is others will also take a similar path…

    Exactly. If you’re a professional photographer or graphic designer who makes his/her living with Photoshop et al, then you upgrade immediately to every new release (except for the fact that performance and UI seems to be regressing steadily, rather than improving, at least on the Mac), and the Cloud version works fine for you–you probably even save money.

    But for those of us in between–who use the tools periodically, but not regularly enough to justify buying every version–this has just priced us out of the market completely. I bought CS1, CS3, and CS5, and I simply couldn’t justify the expense of the interim versions. I’d have considered CS7 based on the features announced today, but I’d probably have waited to CS8, really, since the stuff being added is less and less compelling and the regressions progressively worse.

    But if I DIDN’T upgrade, I could still happily use my old version without issue. I know people still getting by quite happily on CS3 or even older versions–it’s still a very functional, professional tool, so long as you don’t need to exchange files with newer versions or need access to the new Camera RAW tools.

    Now my option is pay every month to use, or I get nothing. And if I stop paying, I can no longer access the software that I had, to date, been paying for, nor open my old files.

    As a freelancer, small business owner, and hobbyist photographer, that is utterly useless. No choice but to stick with the version I already own (certainly not going to fork over for CS6 and reward Adobe for this). Likewise, my day job had budget sitting there waiting for the release of CS7 to upgrade two seats of our old CS3 license. I can’t justify a Cloud membership for them, and I don’t think I can argue in favor of paying for CS6, either, so Adobe just lost that sale, too.

      I make a good chunk of my living through using Photoshop, and I for one will not be better off with this pricing model. I don’t buy every new version of Photoshop, for the simple reason that Photoshop already did everything I needed 10 years ago. The features they keep adding seem useful to professional users least of all– if I need tools from Illustrator, I use Illustrator, and if I have an original image that’s not of acceptable quality, then I need a new source image, not tools to “fix” it. And file compatibility issues are a thing of the past, largely due to Adobe’s own PDF format. Incidentally, it’s a similar story with Illustrator.

      I’m sure I’m not the only person who thinks that way, and I’m sure Adobe are aware of it. I think that’s the entire reason they’re moving to a subscription model; if it had anything to do with what’s best for customers, they wouldn’t be making it mandatory.

        Well, if you have been using the same version of photoshop for the last 10 years then you are exactly as well off as you have been the last ten years, and the situation would have been exactly the same regardless what Adobe did. So why are you implying that you are all of a sudden worse off due to the CC?

          I haven’t been using the same version for 10 years (CS3 isn’t that old). I’ve been periodically compelled to upgrade for various reasons, but the reason has never been that I wanted the features of newer versions.

          I won’t be worse off unless / until I have to move to the subscription version, but once that happens I will spend the rest of my life paying for many more upgrades than I would have otherwise.

      Hmm, one idea that came to me.

      After you paid a certain amount of money for subscription fees (say $3K), Adobe could let you unlock certain parts of the suite. After you unlock you get no updates, unless you continue to pay the subscription, but you can use the programs as they are.

    It’s not $600 per year for Photoshop, it’s $240. Which isn’t that bad.

Adobe should have warned loyal Photoshop users that upgrading to PS CS6 the standard way (for US $200)would mean that you would not be elible for minor updates enjoyed by PS CC subscription users (for $19.99 per month for PS CC,so $320 in a 16 month upgrade cycle.)I would not have bought the (less expensive) standard upgrade to PS CS6 if I had known the ramifications of not paying more to do the monthly lease.

Any chance the line tool has been improved so you can edit a line color / point size after its drawn? I find the whole line tool to not be intuitive at all.

I really like the CC software model. I was skeptical about the value at first but I still think the monthly fee is reasonable and having access to ALL the Adobe products as they are upgraded has been great. I’ve done so much more now that I have access to additional tools that I would not have purchased outright had CC not been available.

    I totally agree — the line tool is baffling now. Not sure why it works different than in InDesign which actually makes sense.

This may or may not be a smart move for Adobe. Time will tell as to whether or not it was a good move for Adobe.

However, it is definitely screwing the amateur photographers like myself. I buy a Photoshop upgrade every second release or so ($200 every 4 years). That works out to about $4 per month. There is NO way that I am going to pay for CC. Sorry Adobe … I am not interested. My copy of CS5 will have to do for the forseable future, and when it doesn’t cut it, I will be looking elsewhere.

    Don’t forget version skipping was already outlawed. Yes, four or five years ago you could opt to skip a version or two if nothing interesting was added, but Adobe eliminated that. Anybody who isn’t already on CS5 or CS6 couldn’t upgrade to a hypothetical CS7 anyway. (And the clock would now be ticking for CS5 users… as soon as Adobe stopped selling CS6 upgrades, they’d be shut out.)

This blog page was inaccessible for the last hour, obviously the server was overloaded and down because it gave a typical “Error establishing a connection with the Database.” This is an ominous portent for the announcement of net based services.

This is why professionals worldwide (like me) will NEVER EVER trust a product that relies on a subscription with internet access. I have used Photoshop versions since the 0.96b that John Knoll gave me personally, but I think CS6 will be the end. I have no need to upgrade and there is no reason I would ever upgrade to cloud based services.

I will never allow any other company to control part of my workflow. It has to reside on my own computer. It has to work in my tested, trusted, secure environment. I have to keep working even if your servers go down. I have to meet my deadlines even if your latest cloud-based update makes the software unworkable and has to be pulled.

Have you guys learned nothing from the recent SimCity fiasco? You just can’t decide to move to the cloud when there is no legitimate reason to do so, other than your desire for ongoing subscription fees. It doesn’t work, and it alienates customers.

    Did you read anything about this, just because they use the word cloud doesn’t mean things aren’t local and need constant on.

    it runs on the local computer and it only needs internet once a month.

I have used Photoshop since version 3. All I use is Photoshop! I am an amateur
photographer and like digital painting. I have absolutely no need for any other adobe product! Looks like I will be using Photoshop CS6 for the rest of my life or until Adobe comes back to selling future stand alone versions of Photoshop. This is a stupid move on Adobes part. They obviously did not think this through. I bet there are thousands of people out there that use only Photoshop and have no need for any other product!

PHOTOSHOP CS6 HAS ALL THE FEATURES I NEED TO CONTINUE TO ENJOY DIGITAL IMAGING. I ONLY CONTINUED TO UPGRADE AT $169 PER YEAR TO GET THE LATEST VERSION. I WILL NOT PAY $600 A YEAR FOR SOMETHING I WILL NOT OWN!!!!!

I predict Adobe will see a great decrease in the number of customers because of the move. It may take a year or two, or a change in management, before we will be able to buy Photoshop as a stand alone again.

    First, this isn’t news, they have been talking about it since last year and shouldn’t catch anyone watching by surprise. Of course they though it through, they wouldn’t have made the change if it hadn’t been working for the past year. Second you can stick to a single app subscription if you want it.

    Why would you pay $600, because you don’t have to?

The only issue I am concerned about is accessibility in the long run. It makes no sense to pay for what is essentially perpetual updates and not be able to drop out at some point and maintain our software and accessibility through the software up to the point we stopped paying, especially for longterm loyal customers. I can understand how it wouldn’t work for new customers but a price point could be set.

I agree with many people here and want to stress the issue about subscription cancellation. You will no longer be able to open your Adobe document files, unless a file conversion business starts up.

I can’t stress how important it is to be able to access archival material and if there is a reason I can no longer pay my subscription, I lose access to my work. This is unacceptable.

Well, CS6 seems to be my last Adobe purchase in this case.

I will not “rent” a software I require to make a living, I need to own it.

    Do you rent (lease) a car?
    Do you rent (lease) office space?
    Do you rent (subscribe) to an ISP for hosting/service?
    Do you rent (lease) office/computer equipment?

    (only 1 ‘yes’ is required to make the point)

    Perhaps YOU don’t, but a lot do – and, in particular, agencies (for whom i’ve worked) rent/lease ALL of it – this makes the license accounting much easier than having to re-up (true-up) every 18/24/36 mo.

    Is it such a stretch to think that (like DropBox for storage) renting/subscribing to a service isn’t becoming a more straightforward solution?

      You defeat your own point. For everything you list, the option exists to buy it, if that option fits the person’s business model (for some it is cheaper in the long run to own if they have the capital, and the same is true for CS, especially if you skip versions). Adobe gave that choice yet now they have taken it away.

    “I will not “rent” a software I require to make a living, I need to own it.”

    Other than your sofa, a microwave, and some underwear, what do you actually ‘own’ besides your intellectual property (creative ideas)?

    We rent or subscribe to all kinds of stuff JUST TO SURVIVE (let alone to make a living).

    Do you have a gmail account? You don’t own OR rent that…

      If you cancel your subscription you won’t even have access to your intellectual property.

      If I cancel my gmail account I can still forward my email to another email account before I cancel it and still access the emails.

      If I cancel my Creative Cloud subscription, I won’t be able to open any native files. My subscription goes, my life’s work (for the subscription period) goes with it.

“They exist on your desktop. Just like the boxed version. They don’t exist out in the cloud somewhere” – Adobe evangelist, Paul Trani

It’s CS + Dropbox (or GoogleDrive)

It seems as though Adobe has created a lot of confusion by calling it ‘Creative Cloud’ which implies that folks would be working ‘in the cloud’ – an obvious step back to location shoots. The truth is that you will still download these apps to your desktop – Adobe is simply pushing a membership subscription service that, for a set price, will ‘sync and store content”

Photoshop CC, as in CreditCard?

    Makes sense given you get a charge to your credit card each month now.

A very quick overview (10 minutes of interweb time)

Creative Cloud for teams = $49.99 *12 = 600
cost for 3 years = 1,800

CS 6 design web premium = $1,899
dropbox (100GB) = 100 per yr)

cost for 3 years = $2,199

Creative Cloud Mythbuster:
http://terrywhite.com/5-myths-about-adobe-creative-cloud/

    correction – *INDIVIDUAL – NOT TEAMS*

How about that Glyph panel…

I agree they need some sort of bailout clause from the subscription model But I have no idea how that would work.

Having said that though what they are doing with Creative Cloud is pretty amazing. Access to whichever software you need at the moment and their continual improvements and upgrades have left me impressed.

Oh joy. Too bad you spiked my upgrade chances.

I have used Photoshop since v1.0, yes, one-point-OH. But guess what? I skipped an upgrade to my personal license and got punished.

For twenty years my upgrade paths were every other version, it’s just a production issue really. You change this and alienate me forever.

wow…
must be a lot of rich people here or pirates,
I couldn’t afford adobe software until the cloud offering so I think it is pretty much the best thing adobe has done.

    The cost savings up front is there but not in the long term. If you intend to use Adobe software in the long run, boxed software tends to be less expensive and contrary to popular belief, Adobe’s software takes a few versions to actually be worth upgrading.

    I am missing the rage here as well. I enjoy the cloud service and I’m not some super professional. I do a design here and there which more than covers my membership per month. I mean really even someone who is just dabbling can find a way to make some money off of Adobe products. For the most part I use the software for my own personal projects and occasionally someone needs some designs done. I was UNABLE to purchase the product with such a high price point but now I feel like it’s more flexible with the cloud option.

I’m truly happy for you, Mia.

I have been using Adobe software for 15 years, all legitimately purchased; I currently have four major Adobe programs and I assure you that Creative Cloud will not be more affordable for me.

This will cost me significantly more money, by virtue of taking away my option to choose what programs and versions are worthwhile for me.

I think this is among the worst things Adobe has done.

So when will this be available for Linux (specially Ubuntu) ?

Lots of linux users waiting a long time for this to be in the cloud so it becomes OS agnostic and available to as many users as possible without that specific OS requirement.

Also the new subscription model looks good, specially those starting out.

    People have a gross misunderstanding about what Creative Cloud actually means. The software is NOT in the cloud.. you download and install it like you always have with past photoshop versions.. So no, I highly doubt it will be available in Linux because it’s not OS agnostic.

    The cloud part of adobe cloud is that you can save your documents and your settings to the cloud.. So, save a work in progress on your laptop and then go to your desktop and open it from the “cloud”.

    The only difference as far as the software is now concerned is that before, Adobe would check your license and make sure it was valid.. it would never expire.. NOW if you stop paying, adobe will make your software useless by not allowing it to run when your subscription is out.

Count me as another longtime user (v2.5 was my first) for which CS6 will be my last purchase. Dollars to doughnuts that “continue to support” means that the non credit card versions will not run under the next OSX (or Windows) version.

In a way I find this interesting. I’m sure this will give open source projects like Gimp a huge boost. I kinda like learning new software, so I think I’ll use this opportunity to see what others have to offer.
I was however greatly looking forward to the new integration between After Effects and Cinema 4D, but oh well. I’ll dust off my Modo license and give Nuke a spin.
Not in a million years am I renting software…

My first was Photoshop 5.5 LE. I’ve had CS, CS2, CS3, CS4 and now went Creative Cloud for CS6.

I can tell you that Creative Cloud has been worth every penny.

There are many good alternatives, many even for free for hobby shooters and weekenders. In my professional opinion with 5 years in teaching software to all ages – I’d even suggest hobby shooters and weekenders should try some of the alternatives because learning the new approaches to editing something will also teach you new ways to shooting something.

However, if your argument is you don’t have the time to learn something new – then you really can’t afford not to go with creative cloud because the time savings across your WHOLE workflow will more than pay for itself. From your business card to your website and anything else a mid level personal marketing person would want to do is possible without having to learn X no. skills (web development, marketing, seo, etc).

Not to mention even on a cheap plan, creative cloud takes care of an additional 5$ MINIMUM you’d be spending on hosting (unless you’re talking about static site hosting – but that’s a different forum).

They did also mention that a benefit of creative cloud (when it was first announced) was that you were the first to get mid sequence updates. Something I’ve been enjoying already. Yes, it’s an investment – but it’s my full production sweet for anything design related plus plenty of avenues to learn new skills. The only product they are missing is a 3d modeler or autocad competitor. That’d be my final wish. No, photoshop’s 3d features don’t cut it yet. :)

And just in case there’s any question – I’m VERY aware of a lot of failures in the adobe system – customer service being the worst feature. I mean, OH-MY-GOODNESS-BAD. And changing billing for creative cloud to any kind of a unique situation is a nightmare and no two service reps will give you the same answer.

But seriously, cut back on a few coffees, don’t drive so aggressively to work and do whatever else you’d need to do if you are serious about creating and buy it – I can’t speak highly enough of what an incredibly value the creative cloud solution is. But that’s my two cents.

    Jesse, what will you do with your native files (eg indd, ai, psd), when you at some stage in the future, cancel your subscription?

    The long term savings is really not there and as was pointed out… once you stop paying them each month you lose access to your source files. People go through rough patches in life. Business fails, job loss, etc. $50 a month is not exactly a cheap bill in those scenarios and just because you hit the bump doesn’t mean that you would stop using the software. You’d ideally work to get back on your feet.

I used Aldus Photostyler and Pagemaker, Adobe bought them over and killed them.
Then I use Macromedia FreeHand,Dreaweaver, Firework and Flash then Adobe come to conquer them and killed majority of them.
I force to use Photoshop 3 since they killed the photostyler 2.5, and I have to upgrade every generation till CS5 and I choose to halt it.
Now, I can see a big chance for Corel to deliver more convincing products.

Judging by the negative sentiment and absolutely zero positive response I imagine this will be the most heavily pirated version yet.

LAME!

Oh my god! They’ve killed photoshop!

    You bastards!

Don’t forget, Adobe has a 9.99/mo for one year introductory offer for Photoshop CS3+ customers. That offer ends in July.

You get

Photoshop Extended not standard.
Use on a Mac or PC without buying another license.
If you need to have another language version,that’s at no cost either.

I may not be going for a $50/month package, PS is about all I use,so 20/month single app works for me.

    @Gene F.
    You get:

    Locked in to paying for CC forever, or at least as long as you want to open your PS files!

      Actually the PSD file format is backward compatible with earlier versions of Photoshop and other programs can read PSDs. So, no your files are not locked out.

      I still have my permanent license CS6 just in case.

Dear folks at Adobe. Again with introducing all these updated CC-Apps you’ve done an awesome job and it’s worth the price of a CC Membership annually. I really can’t understand all this discussion going on about lease and payment. I have come to the Mac a few years ago and was formerly working about 25 years with Windows-Systems. I always glanced with envy at people working with Adobe Photoshop and couldn’t afford it With Creative Cloud and being a member since the very first day, I’m now capable of working with the same tools like professionals and in my everyday work as a photographer (as a hobby) I really do enjoy all the benefit provided by CC. I also do not understand the demands of some people here, working in a foreign country with no access to electricity and blaming Adobe for the lack of it – in some strange way. Nobody forces anyone to be a member.

    you could charge adobe on a credit card and own it after 1 year at 50 a month. then upgrade as yOU see fit. not having to pay 50 every month for ever which it wont be 50 forever next year it will be 75 then 100 then 125 and so on! we must all stick together on this. renting software is just not right. next thing adobe will own the rights to your work because it was developed with its software you no longer pay rent on! sound far fetched? well it could happen read the terms of service agreement CAREFULLY!

      Hi David,

      What guarantees did you have that perpetual licenses wouldn’t go up? If you look past history in terms of pricing, Photoshop’s current pricing is 1/6th it’s original cost, and Lightroom’s is 1/2 it’s original cost.

      – Jeff

        The issue is more about the fact there is no perpetual option period. Not everyone wants to connect to the internet on any sort of schedule (in this case 30 days to validate). Spending $1k on the software up front is preferable to me because it’s there regardless.

        Both have advantages and disadvantages but in the software industry going the route of subscription based models only regardless of the ‘value’ isn’t ideal for everyone out there. Mind you this will not stop with Adobe. I trust it won’t be long until Apple hops on board. Microsoft already does it to corporate customers. Kind of why we’ve more or less ditched them and are saving over 10 million a year just in our US call centers alone. Pretty soon we’ll all be paying a monthly bill for software updates for our operating systems on our computers, tablets and phones. Ultimately I can see it happening where without government intervention your computer won’t be usable if you haven’t paid your bill to Apple or Microsoft that month.

        This debate happened back when World of Warcraft came out. Said it made sense for games because of the constant upgrades and how much expansion packs cost anyway but that they’d never do this to ‘normal’ computer software. I was part of the ‘It’s gonna happen’ side and sure enough here we are. That’s why this is such a big issue to people like us who see beyond the instant gratification of not putting up $3k for a suite of software programs.

These changes are simply amazing! Very excited!

Calm down everyone. I don’t know why everyone is so upset about this. I have been using CreativeCloud since it came out. It is an amazing deal.

Get the upgrade price, which is $30 a month. Over the course of the year it is actually cheaper than design premium was back when I would buy that bundle, but you are actually getting the Master Suite and beyond. You can host up to 5 sites, so for many of us that saves on hosting, you get behance.net premium membership which is $100 a year, you get full access to typekit which is absurdly expensive normally, and you get 20gb of a dropbox clone that is built specifically for Creative Professionals and fits into our workflow which makes collaboration really nice.

In addition to all of that you can use it for both Mac and Windows. Which for me is really nice because before i would have had to pay for a windows license and a mac license of CS. This gives you everything. Add in the extra cloud features for iPhone and mobile users and we have it pretty good right now. I like the direction they are going and I love not having to front $1200 for the Master Collection. For most of us, we are using this in some form or another for work, so you can write this off as a business expense on your taxes, which makes it even better.

Adobe really is giving you your dollars worth here. Let’s not forget that this is a professional suite of software. It is designed for Professionals. Its the cheapest monthly business expense I have, and honestly it is one of the few that there is no way I could work without it, how to complain about that?

    I have mixed feelings about this. While on one hand, the subscription offers a variety of applications. I use mostly Photoshop (CS5) and Premiere (CS5.5)and Lightroom 4 quite extensively and professionally. I upgrade when I see the benefit of features or need to support newer cameras and video files. Budget is always a concern. What bothers me about the Creative Cloud, and Adobe in general, is… when they start collecting subscriptions (fees, $$$) for use and not necessarlily for innovation and new features, then I begin wonder if they will continue to innovate, or will CS5 & CS6 be the end of meaningful upgrade value.
    What leads me to be suspicious is that Adobe has had a history of buying innovation (and the competition) and not necessarily keeping the best parts – just the most lucrative – remember Aldus and Macromedia (Photo Styler and Xres, not to mention Freehand). Though implemented pretty well in Lightroom, real multitasking (not multithreading) has still never been implemented in Photoshop. I’m still waiting for Adobe make Photoshop able to actually multitask. {I do realize, never the less, that some of the aquisitions have provided well rounded application compatibilty in many of the suites applications.}

    so even after you retire from photography as a business you will still need to pay monthly to fiddle with your old photographs that are in that format. where as it is had you bought say cs5 you could continue to use that software well into your retirement. you could also do some occassional side work doing touch ups and such. not making enough to warrant 50 bucks a month but enough to warrant keeping the cs5 or cs6 or latest version you had. as long as people like you go along with adobe they will continue on the path they are on. its important we all stick together. if you need a payment plan because you cant afford the full price at once get a credit card and charge it 1200.00 for 12 months is 50 a month. after the year is up you could use that software until YOU seen the benifit of upgrading. not continue to pay 50 a month for ever! besides this year its 50 next year its 75 then 100 it will never stop going up!

      And the people who argue in favor of this model that when the subscription price goes up will just buy into the whole ‘costs of developing software go up’. They’re the types that have no problem shelling out money without question. They are also likely the types that would spend $10 more on an item just to avoid going to Wal-Mart on principle.

Here’s a simple scenario that maybe you didn’t account for Adobe – I work for an institution, and bill on PO. I can not subscribe to your monthly service, nor am I allowed to use cloud services for security reasons. CC holds no value to me. Not to mention, I can’t guarantee I’m going to have the budget next year to pay for your service for my users, which means if something goes wrong I’m suddenly stuck without the software I used to be able to just buy, instead of being able to limp along for a while.

Thanks for breaking the most simplistic sales model for the sake of a constant money stream. I can’t even just buy a piece of design software for work. I’m saddened at the state of the market. So short-sighted and greedy.

Well then, guess I have no choice but to stop using Adobe products… since I literally have no choice in the matter.

You are asking me to pay you 61,49 Euro/Month for an annual subscription? Really?
In Bulgaria that means 122,00 Leva! And the US users will pay only 49,99 USD, which is 74,59 Leva!
Would you,please, explain me why should I pay 25,00 USD extra?
Better switch to COREL – it sucks, but I know what I’m paying for!

    If you’re a student, it’s only 19.99€ a month. Lifehacker calculated that if the Creative Cloud costs $50 a month, if you’re willing to be stuck for more than two years without an update, then you should stick with the retail version but if you want the newest suite or plan to renew your suite every two years, it’s worth it to get the cloud.

    If you’re a student, well then the equivalent would be four years with an old photoshop or update.

      What “retail version” is this then?

      Seriously, the number of dullards on here who simply *don’t read* is just breathtaking.
      There *are* no retail versions any more. Everything that was in Creative Suite is now on subscription, and *only* on subscription.

Thanks Adobe…you’ve just effectively killed many high school graphic design programs. I’ve taught Photoshop and Illustrator for 18 years to my high school students. Every 5 years we are barely able to scrape together enough money to purchase a site license so we can be 3 versions behind the times.

As everyone knows, the one thing that public schools have plenty of is extra money (picking up on the sarcasm?) Now, there is no way we can afford a monthly fee.

What the hell Adobe?

    This is exactly why they need to stick to offering both options. CC has it’s merits but it doesn’t work for everyone and basically throwing away the customers that cannot adopt the model is generally poor business and not very customer centric.

I have been paying $50.00 a month for the last year and now I find that if I upgraded from CS 5.5 I would have only had to pay $30.00 a month yet i did the upgrade from CS 5.5 and I am paying $50.00 what gives. For me I go back and forth between the two version as some of my plugins work better in the earlier version. I am still irritated about the extra $20.00 amonth that I should not have had to pay as it was an upgrade.

WELL Adobe?

I work with Photoshop since version 2.5, I’m sorry but with the crisis in Portugal is impossible for a small profitional pay € 61.49 a month, we’ll have to turn to other alternatives, surely this will cause investment by other manufacturers …

This “creative cloud” is a scam. It reminds me of the pre-paid legal fad that was going around 10 years ago.

I for one, think it’s great! Ever since I’ve finished school it was impossible for me to pay for the products of Adobe untill I noticed the cloud system and all of the sudden it was affordable. I really don’t get why people make a big deal out of it. (almost) Any profitable company can pay 60 bucks a month for a tool which is used up to more than 40 hours a week. Multiple tools. If not, you’re really doing some shitty business..
Adobe isn’t some charity, ofcourse they want to make profit. They’re even making in cheaper if you compare it to full licenses, upgrades, and basically the constant new versions.

Most of these tools are used for work, not private use. Don’t you guys and gals forget such an important difference when you’re comparing it to hammers and other software. It’s not as if they’re forcing you to buy/rent their stuff. Go ahead, use GIMP or something. It’s nearly not as great or intuitive as Photoshop is. same goes for most of their tools.

Keep it up Adobe! I support you.

    Not everyone uses photoshop to turn a profit, there are hobbyist photographers that make use of photoshop .. there are students and other people that are now forced to perpetually pay for something they will never own .. and now if they stop paying, they can’t work with their previous projects.. Sure, this is great for businesses or those who can afford that extra monthly bill.. but not everyone can do that.

    I’ve always bought it outright and upgraded when necessary with the discounted upgrade price.. It’s called offering consumers the choice and it costs absolutely nothing for Adobe to provide that. There’s really no excuse for this.

I have upgraded many times to reach CS6 master collection, but this is the end of the road for me. I was all ready to go for CS7.

To think that anything I had created would become unusable if I stopped my subscription feels like robbery.

CreateJS looks interesting but any moment it may be snatched away and made CC, so there’s no point in following that either.

I have been knocked out by the people I committed to.

Sorry photoshop. I’ll stick with CS6 for as long as I can. I don’t mind paying the purchase price….I do mind paying monthly installments for something I don’t own. I’ll find something else as I won’t rent software. I feel cheated and that’s what I don’t like. I like being in control of what I spend and won’t be subjected to a monthly fee. I did fine for years using a pay-as-you-go phone simply because I can’t stand contracts.

You’ve turned your back to those of us that are advanced photographers and don’t earn an income using your products.

It’s sad you’ve turned your back to those of us that have paid and supported your company for years.

I just won’t make the jump from being sold a product I have some control over how I use and pay to being offered a rental contract you control.

    I find your comment completely reasonable.

Ladies and gentlemen, for many years I use the Production Premium suite. I am appalled that they offer their software only to rent. If the lease expires I have no way to open my projects. It would be nice if they continue to offer their software to buy. or if you after the rent has the option to purchase the program permanently. I hope they revise the model yet. I would be very unwilling to switch to other programs because I appreciate their programs and would like to pay in the future for updates. But not for rent.

Greeting
Udo Holzmann

I can only assume they will make this CC freely available to students because there is no way a student will pay monthly subs out of their already tight budget just so they can learn photoshop, that not being the case most Universities will switch to Gimp or some other software and given time photoshop will be a distant memory apart from the saying something has been photoshopped.
Don’t get me wrong, photoshop is the class leader, but as much as the big business high end users are important to them, the little man using photoshop to help improve his private pictures, the small business who only use photoshop occasionally and of course the students who today might be using pirated photoshop but were going to be the high end users of the future spending all their corporate budgets on Photoshop are not being served by CC as it will push them out of the market. This may work well for the next few years but unless the student issue is addressed then this will be the death knell for Adobe photo editing supremacy.
If somehow they sort out that students get it for free it will only take a very short time for those who trade in illegal software to hack the system and then everyone will be getting it free anyway. I see no reason not to make a purchasable version available for those who don’t need to be right up to date every second of their editing lives. I am unimpressed with this whole cloud thing and will not be going down that road, I will not be spending several hundreds of pounds upgrading to the CC so that is probably 40 years worth of business you have lost from me A disgruntled CS extended user. Good bye Adode, it was nice while it lasted…

    You are correct. I have a kid going to school this fall learning graphic design. They use Photoshop CS and now this stunt gets pulled. Now i’ll most likely be paying for CC in addition to the high tuition rate. Looks like i’m getting hit twice, once for myself and once for my kid. As I stated above, I’ll go to something else. Fortunately I get it mostly right in camera anyways and rarely use many of Photoshops tools.

    Hi Jim,

    Students receive a 40% discount on Creative Cloud. In fact, students can get Creative Cloud complete for 60% off ($19.99 per month the first year http://www.adobe.com/education.edu.html?promoid=JOLIZ promo ends the end of June)

    Educational institutions also receive discounts for volume licensing. http://www.adobe.com/volume-licensing/education/enterprise-agreement.edu.html

    – Jeff

      Thanks for the reply. School doesn’t start until Sept so i’ll be stuck at whatever price you determine at that time. And that’s exactly where the majority of complaints are coming from. If I could purchase the software I could pay at the known rate now and my son would have the software to use. Now we’re forced to pay whatever rate ADOBE determines. This will be great for kids graduating from school…they keep paying or they won’t be able to show their work to prospective employers. My previous posts about the inability to control things from the consumer end are exactly why i’ll switch software.

      Address why i’ll have no functioning software after paying for years and i’ll reconsider. The CC is not a great deal as a “rental” model since you are left with nothing at the end….. unless you just keep on paying. Adobe simply refuses to address this.

I only say: bye Adobe

sad day for cs users. we wont be using adobe products any longer. we dont want to rent and have our photographs and work held hostage. forced to pay continuosly to use software and further work on our photographs. we made adobe what it is by using its software and telling others, sharing information, education etc. we can also bring adobe down by promoting alternative software and educating on its use! your greed will be your end adobe!

The comment was made about innovation. Some have stated that there isn’t anything you need more sophistication in. Fine, use what you have. Adobe has PhD’s, physicists, professional users, and a whole lot of other premium software brains. These cost money. In the last year of being developed, Creative Cloud has innovated and improved continually. In After Effects the 3D workspace improvements, Suite wide Mercury engine improvements, the non destructive editing abilities, improvements in PS, Premiere Pros intense improvement…. etc. This option is smart, functional and a vast improvement over the old model.

If it irks you to have this usage model rolled out, well it irks you. I don’t want to go back to the stone age. Every element of Creative Cloud has worked for me, and CC makes sense. So we all have free will, including Adobe. Use yours to determine if you need to move to another product line. Adobe has made a good business move, whether you like it or not.

P.S. When Creative Cloud first came out I copped just about every negative attitude/thought I seen expressed here. This was before actually investigating and knowing what I was talking about. I now express the above thoughts after a year of use. For those who just won’t go this new route good luck in your new endeavors.

    Thanks Kevin,

    I appreciate hearing your experience.

    – Jeff

Adobe, if you asked all your current and potential users if they wanted to own or rent a copy of Adobe CS/CC I presume the majority would be to own. At least give the users an alternative. Converting from CS to CC cloud solution is forcing your users to pay for updates that they perhaps could do without.

I am a long time user of the Adobe products; with Photoshop being by entry point. For the longest I owned the physical product. I switched to the cloud because the discount offered by my NAPP membership made it affordable. The other reason was: what to do with the old software when the new version comes along? Yeah, I know I can donate and have in the past. I recognize that the Creative Cloud is a tether and forces you to be connected. If this is to be the way forward, to borrow a phrase, then that needs to be corrected. I guess it means we are all addicted, and Adobe is our “dealer”. But let’s be honest, it has been that way for a while.
After reading about the foreign customers I certainly feel their pain. They should not have to pay enormous fees for a digital download–no shipping and handling rationalization applies.
I could say lighten up but I believe that would require a Blending Mode. Smile.

What this Adobe decision will primarily cause, is to make other companies push on the accelerator to provide what Adobe will not provide anymore: a non-expiring license to a great photo editing software.

In other words, Adobe will succeed in what the other companies have failed for 20 years: incentivizing serious competition for Photoshop!

People please remember this: buying is like voting. Buy only if you belive that the company is making the right choice, otherwise go on strike and stop buying that product! They will eventually change their minds, but have to make your voice heard!

    Some people don’t have that choice.. for some folks Photoshop is a requirement and it’s those people who have to take it up the tail pipe and grumble.

I don’t like this subscription model as a mandatory thing for the same reason other opponents of this have given..

I’m an amateur photographer, I do it for the love of doing it and not for profit. Photoshop has been an essential tool for that hobby but it’s not something I do all the time, I mainly do it in the fall or once every few months.. Now I have to permanently rent Photoshop in order to use it? that’s ridiculous .. this subscription system is only good for businesses that work with these tools on a daily basis.

With this subscription model, you’re constantly paying for the product.. regardless of whether you use it regularly or not.. like I said, if you’re a business or you’re using the software to earn an income, this is great! but for those of us who are hobbyists this is a slap in the face.. I think they should still offer some of the core products as a pay once and you own kind of thing, then if I want to update in a couple of years I can.

    Brian L. on this page of comments believes you are not really Adobe’s focus because you are not a ‘professional’ that is turning a profit. Thus not important.

    His way of thinking I’m certain puts a smile on someone’s face at Adobe. In the meantime Adobe fails to realize the importance of providing options for those where CC is just not a viable solution. Ironically I can image these people in support of this model are also likely deeply in debt with cars and mortgages so naturally tend to hand over money like candy to companies simply because they feel they’re professionals. Monthly bills are what get people into trouble. period. We don’t need that junk in our software now.

Kinda sucks we can’t get these new features on the current Photoshop. Already spend a lot money on it..oh well it seems to look good though.

I’ve been thinking it over the past few weeks and I think if Adobe made a few changes to its pricing structure/membership plan options, the CC shift would be more attractive to freelance artists.

I’d be perfectly content to subscribe to Photoshop as a single app for $10 (not just for the first year, but continuously), or pay slightly more (but not the full suite price) for a few apps. PS, Flash, etc. There are many artists who really do not need access to the full product line, just 2-3 programs. That was the beauty of the previous CS suites. They were well-tailored to the needs of different artists. Design Premium worked perfectly for me in my line of work.

Could we also get some clarification on what “Full version of Adobe Photoshop® CC desktop app, plus limited access to services” means in regards to the single app membership plan? I tried to find more information on what limited access is referring to (are only some of the services available?) but can’t seem to find this information anywhere on the site. This really should be easier to find.

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I don’t like the idea that if I stop paying, I can no longer use the software. That seems wrong. If you’ve been paying all along, it should be yours to use from there on out. Nuff said.

What I have always had a gripe about is them not making things like shortcuts the same across the main apps of ID, PS an AI. Simple things like pressing a letter in the font dropdown to move to that letter in the alphabetic list. Doesn’t work in PS or AI. Paste not being on the right-click menu in AI. Little inconsistencies that have been there for several versions. They spend so much time thinking up esoteric features, but completely ignore fixing little things that would make us all more productive.

    They’ll just do what Microsoft tends to do and fix it up in a future version so that way it entices you to upgrade. It’s one of those “Oh I don’t need these new features but… that bug that’s been annoying me was finally fixed. I guess I’ll have to upgrade if I want that fix.”

    I seriously feel there should be a LAW in place that fixes for bugs in previously released software cannot be made available in future versions exclusively.

I’m not sure I like this idea, but what’s Adobe supposed to do if most people just torrent it anyway? I think they should make it so that if the license is expired, basic features such as turning on and off layers, printing, save to jpeg, crop, etc – the stuff you’d probably get in most free programs anyway – still work. That way people won’t be able to say “If I forget to pay for a month, I can’t even access my files!”

    If most people pirated the software, Adobe would not be the strong business it has been and still is. Those who develop software tend to exaggerate the impact of piracy. Piracy impacts the small development houses FAR FAR more than it ever will to a larger corporation.

    What corporations do is they get a rough tally of pirated copies, they count each one as a monetary loss. So 2 downloads of Photoshop (even if it’s just someone redownloading a copy) they count it as a loss of 2 purchases of Photoshop and put the full retail dollar amount on it. Businesses doing piracy is much more watched out for than an individual doing it. A business pirating software can be hit pretty hard with fines and litigation.

    Piracy has become the scapegoat in my opinion to cover up greed and justify enforcing software models that basically play big brother on you. Microsoft is taking this a step further with Xbox One and requiring the console not only have the software installed and tied to your xbox live account and eliminating game rentals and purchasing used physical copies of games entirely but they’re also mandating that a camera and microphone be always connected for the system to even work….. on a system that requires an internet connection….. just a couple of years after they filed for a patent that’s about using a video device to count the people in a room and ensure licenses are being upheld. Here’s a link to an article explaining it: http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-patent-uses-kinect-and-mobile-cameras-to-count-people-in-your-living-room-2012-11

    I think we’re heading to a point where we need to do a double-take and really ask ourselves how much control over software should a company actually have once you’ve forked over your money for it.

Wow – I am a new buyer. Was going to buy a few months ago but life got in the way. Now I cannot even buy it… I am an individual who buys new versions of software only when needed (lets face it – old versions of photoshop did everything many casual users need… professionaly no doubt need the latest). The monthly fee and the fact that they can raise the price in the future means that the 4 year lifecycle of my typical software will be WAY more expensive with this crazy model. We are looking into alternatives to photoshop …… Any suggestions?
jason

I’m a creaky designer who has been using adobe since illustrator 88, always legally; expanding licenses as our business grew. … loyally ( perhaps blindly ) staying on the upgrade path. Adopting Indesign early, adopting Acrobat early (despite those initial crazy prices). With regret I have to say this is the last straw. We will not be exploited further. we will stay on CS6 suites and look for alternative product by product … Hmm wonder what Quark is like these days

And you guys think this will ward off piracy? There are many programs out there that requires constant internet connection but nevertheless pirated.

    I can guarantee you it will be pirated. Diablo 3, a game that requires an always on internet connection has been pirated, same with World of Warcraft which as I’m sure you know requires a monthly fee to play.

    Those that pirate the software generally were not likely ones who would buy it in the first place. If piracy were a severe issue, the company would have folded a long time ago. Some may say this is an anti-piracy measure but really it’s just a way to force a constant flow of money in from people who are already dependent on the software (since the majority of Adobe’s sales likely comes from businesses) to fund frivolous development costs. Each new version of Photoshop for example has been less innovative than the last. Most of the other software sees hardly any improvements and usually has things broken that worked fine in a prior version….then they never really get around to fixing the bug if it’s not a severe enough one to them.

I, for one, will be finding another application. This blows. I hate this model.

IT Manager for Int’l company

You guys are basically falling into the oldest of human traits. Resisting change. SaaS (Software as a Service) is not new, it’s been around for ages. Businesses are more than used to paying on their software by subscriptions. Adobe is not in any shaky legal ground in going this direction unless they quit supporting CS6 in a reasonable window, which they won’t do.

You have a simple choice, don’t upgrade to the new version of the software, and you can’t be abandoned when you deactivate your subscription. For the largest cross section of Adobe’s *paying* user base, it’s a great deal, the added services and the increased rate of innovation are just icing on the cake. The more progressive single users (I don’t use Adobe’s products for income and I buy them for my own hobbies) are thrilled that the Master Collection is so accessible now.

Vote with your wallet, I don’t think Adobe is going to miss the cranky ones that are resisting this change nearly as much as they are going to be excited by the customers like me who gladly sign up to get products they couldn’t afford to buy on perpetual license before.

Adobe’s products are professional applications. Subscription is a common model for professional software. Move along, nothing to see here.

I happily pay them my $50/mo.

    So why not run the 2 models in parallel?

    The cynics amongst us can only anticipate a few years into the future when the masses have converted, and the ‘oh so lovely’ $50 per month suddenly changes into an obscene monthly cost.

    At that point returning to our old purchased CS6 boxes will be impossible due to changing systems and we will be stranded in type of exorbitant monthly costs that larger businesses can absorb, hobbyists can abandon and small businesses like us burn from.

Did Adobe return the keyboard shortcuts to the way they were in photoshop CS3?

I am totally onboard with the Creative Cloud membership plan. This the BEST thing to ever happen because now I can afford the entire suite without shelling out $2K at one time. Bring it on! I just wish I knew when it was being released

    Only three more days…it’s on my to do list.

I’ve been a PS user since PS5, and I will never “rent” Photoshop. Enjoy ripping off your customers stupid enough to agree to rent and see how they feel 15-20 years down the road. I’ve always been happy to promote/support Photoshop. No more.

I’ll use CS6 until a suitable alternative becomes mature–and one will. Adobe is begging for competition where none has existed. I’ve never seen such an incredibly short-sighted business decision where a dominate company leaves such a huge opportunity for another company to steal their customers.

Adobe, you’re making hamburger out of your cash cow.

i have been using photoshop since photoshop 4 i have delivered training courses on it and yes i am continuing with cc because my work now requires the use of more application all of which can be supplied by adobe .

Now i am extremely concerned about adobe turning around putting the price up and screwing with all my budgets but at the moment i am in a play i can afford. This model is being used everywhere, from car sale’s to next gen game markets. The way i see it is you have to adapt to survive, but most on here seem to be set in there way’s and cant see the world is moving past them, which is fine as the way i see it is IF and its a big if ..if adobe can guarantee the price will not be put up for x amount of years, then i am happy to sit back and take everyone’s client when they are left behind moaning .
on saying that i will still be keeping an eye out for any competition that is surely to evolve as a good business always look for the best deal

For everyone talking about the piracy issue, lets not forget that piracy is one of the main reasons that Adobe is now industry standard.
The software was so easy to obtain with keygens being created before the release date of each new version. I wonder who created them. Maybe a great marketing strategy?
Anyway, I’m fine with CC. I joined and I like the fact that they are building an ecosystem for designers to fit the software. However, I am extremely disappointed in the all or nothing option you’re given. Why not have different CC packages. I doubt a web developer needs After Effects. If you want something like that done, you hire a motion guy.

It is June 21st and still cannot upgrade ohotoshop new features as promised when I subscribed to photoshop CC. When will this be possible?

    Today is the 17th. Not the 21st.

Typo! I thought new photoshop available on 17th June

I really don’t see what all the fuzz is about? Adobe is giving us, the users, a brilliant way of always having the latest software available at a low cost. If I was to buy the upgrades every time they come, it would cost me much more every year then the subscription to Adobe Cloud costs. So, I for one salute Adobe for this way of giving us the latest software at an affordable price. But I’m still waiting for the CC upgrade here in Norway :) It is supposed to come today, right?

    I was able to download photoshop cc today, it is great! In fact I have been able to upgrade from photoshop to the extended edition for £8 per month for the first year, not a bad deal!

      Hi David, glad that worked well for you.

        I am happy with the new system as it allows me to have all the updates as they occur instead having massive upgrades every 18 months. It is a more dynamic way of keeping up to date

          I don’t mind waiting 18 months for upgrades, doesn’t bother me a bit.

Thank you Adobe for encouraging me to explore other alternatives to the Creative Suite. We would typically upgrade every other version for CS since we typically did not need all of the “new features”.

Your new business model should help to grow competition by forcing companies like ours to reconsider the expensive Adobe upgrades and to research competing software. As the non-professional individuals stop using Adobe they will be forced to learn new products and may start to share their findings with the companies they work for. Just like Google apps have started to move people away from Microsoft.

So long Adobe. If I can’t own a product I have paid for consistently since you hit the market I can find something else. I’ll use CS6 of InDesign. Photoshop and Illustrator till I can’t and them move on. I have enough monthly bills. I don’t need more. Quark still exists and from what I hear has really improved their product. I threw them over for InDesign because of their crappy business practices. Ironic. I will never RENT software. I’m too old for that.

    Totally agree. I can barely get by now with the monthly bills I have to pay, I don’t need anymore.

This is very disturbing. I and other professional photographers do not have internet access on our work computers and for good reason. We don’t want anything from the outside to have potential of getting in. So how in the world are we going to continue to work with newest software if we cannot purchase it? I thought Adobe said they would make CS7 available for purchase for those without internet access. Besides all that, I cannot afford a monthly premium like that and our internet is so slow there is no way we could do all we need to do to the images over the net. Sad day for consumers of photoshop. Now is the time for another company to step in and fill the gap. Photoshop just lost another customer.

    Charles,

    Do you currently use CS6 perpetual license? It also requires an internet connection to activate the software. Similarly, Photoshop CC only needs to be connected to the internet to do activation. You can work offline for over 3 months at a time and you work on and save your files locally (sync/sharing via Creative Cloud is optional).

this new rounded rectangle tool is soooo frustrating! I want to make a small UI element of 4pc height and the tool just can’t make a less than 1px radius. It’s VERY ANNOYING Adobe!

I do believe that a foreclosures can have a significant effect on the applicant’s life. House foreclosures can have a Several to decade negative relation to a applicant’s credit report. The borrower having applied for home financing or just about any loans as an example, knows that the worse credit rating is, the more tough it is to have a decent loan. In addition, it could possibly affect a borrower’s ability to find a respectable place to let or hire, if that will become the alternative housing solution. Great blog post.

What’s happened with Adobe software is very sad. I’ve been using their products for 10 years, and they’ve got a lot of money from me. It’s a slap in the face to charge people as much as they are for CC. If you can’t own Photoshop, you should be able to pay like $5 a month to rent it, not $20.

I feel upset that 7 months ago I took out the annual contract for PS CC at a cost of £17.50 per month. Now people are getting it for just £8.50 per month including LR5. I used PS CS4 prior to taking on the annual contract but am not allowed to transfer to the new Photography deal because I was a student and my copy of CS4 was purchased at the reduced cost for students. I am so unhappy about this unfair deal that at the end of my annual contract I will not renew. I think Adobe should take care of those people, like myself, that took on the annual contract originally as we are, after all, using and paying for a full copy of PS.

It is a really essential resource. I use Photoshop for all my on-line productions

Camera shake reduction is such a cool feature , must have.

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